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Uh, yeah. I love the optimism of tRCMB, but his shooting regression last year was tough to watch.
Unfortunately, the RCMB's optimism is probably just a precursor to vilifying the kid and torching him for not meeting their own expectations.
Until he proves he can make shots, teams aren't going to let Appling drive to the basket. By the end of last season opponents weren't even picking him up until he got to 15 feet. They were begging him to beat them from outside.
I'm not taking a stance either way.
If he returns to his Freshman form, then it's a very good harbinger for the team.
Hopefully, he can play the 2 with Trice and Valentine at the 1 during spots and get his confidence back.
If he shoots like last year, then the pressure will be on Harris, Trice and everyone else more.
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So do you think he just unlearned how to shoot last year?
He shot 41% as a freshman while taking more shots than he did last year. He's a good shooter who for whatever reason lost confidence in his shot last year. If (and it's not much of an if) he regains his confidence, he'll be shooting right around 40% this year.
My prediction of Appling leading the team isn't optimism, it just makes sense regardless of how well he shoots. Hell he wasn't that far behind Day Day and Wood last year in total makes despite shooting 25%. He is on the court behind the arc for 32 minutes a game, he's going to get shots. He shot 41% as a Frosh (second only to Chris Hill among Freshmen in Izzo era). He'll be somewhere in between the two this eyar. I think it will be something like this:
Appling: 49-140 (35%)
Trice: 40-96 (42%)
Harris: 36-100 (36%)
Byrd: 19-60 (32%)
Kearney: 12-35 (34%)
Payne: 11-40 (28%)
Valentine: 4-12 (33%)
Dawson: 2-10 (20%)
Gauna: 1-2 (50%)
No, in fact it was mystifying as to how much he struggled because he appears to have a great stroke. It's not like he looks like Kalvon Torbit and it was obvious why he was struggling.
That being said, he has a long climb back up from where he finished last year. If he can even be marginally better he will be a huge asset in opening up the middle for the big guys.
Anyone that says Byrd is wrong. Sorry. Harris or Trice.
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Torbert shot over 37% for his career, including 48% as a junior. His shot may not have been pretty, but it was pretty effective.
I posted this chart last year and just updated it to include final year-end stats from last year.
Good call so far on the second half of this prediction.
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
I'm with you here, but I also kind of hope that he's being used as a sandbag by Izzo for use in the future..like Sunday against Ohio State.
I just can't understand how he's stuggled THIS much. It's painful to watch and getting embarrassing. I find myself really begging for something good to happen for him out there..damn..
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So very wrong.
Looks like we have a winner (at least on the first part).
Gary Harris is so much more advanced as a shooter than I thought he would be. Obviously he was a top recruit, but I thought he would be more of a slasher and develop into a consistent shooter. He's pretty much the ideal college 2-guard.
I'm no recruitnik, but everything I heard about him was in line with what you did - slasher, mid range shooter, great athlete. Disgruntled Purdue fans were claiming he'd be a liability from outside 15 feet.
I saw him play in person a few times last year. In 1 game he was 14-15 and the only miss was an attempt out of the paint. In high school, he was an amazing finisher and slasher. I thought he would start out like that this year, while slowing working in his outside jumper. He has a much better shot than he showed in the games I saw of him last year.
Just think about when he builds the confidence to slash to the basket more often with that jumper as backup...
So far, I've been pretty close. Gary has the most attempts and makes; however, Payne is the leader in percentage (75%). If we only count shooters with over 10 attempts, then Trice is the percentage leader.
Also, pretty sure I nailed it with my "airballs" guess.
Since I called you out a little bit because of this post, good call on Harris. He has shown a lot better shot than I saw from him last year.
But Payne's shooting percentage does count.
Well, I nailed it in 3 of my 4 guesses (takes, makes, and airballs). I'm damn close in the other one, and the only guy ahead of Trice in percentage has shot only 8 three-pointers all season.
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