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There is an awful lot of sunshine in this thread. Ten wins? What about this season makes people believe this will be anything more than a seven win team?
Losses @ND, @Nebraska. Tossup at Northwestern. 2nd place in the division, Nebraskas schedule got a whole lot easier too, they go 7-1 in the conference.
9-3 if our offense learns how to score inside the 20.....6-6 if it doesnt change
To die in ann arbor is redundant
please direct me to your source on that.
what i was able to find was out of the 40 top college backs in yards gained, bell was 39th in ypc. also 37th in "longest rush". but i couldn't find the data for yards after contact.
every great college back has a fair amount of yac; i'm just wondering your source.
It was all over the BWW broadcast
thats what i'm trying to get at. fact or fiction.
and not just yards, but YARDS AFTER CONTACT, PER CARRY.
and btw, anyone who thinks we're gonna lose to Illinois ( i live in chicago suburbs)
needs to put down the alcohol.
Illinois will probably go 2-10 or 3-9. they are God-awful and losing three guys to the pros.
This post was edited by jallen fan11693 18 months ago
Interesting scheduling quirk...um has a bye before the MSU game for the next two years.
Guess you didn't actually read my post. I have us losing to Ohio St. in the BTCG.
This post was edited by mark_v 18 months ago
Exactly. Do i have to name one of the gazillion examples in sports of that happening?
There was an SI article not too long ago about projecting wins. It was an NFL thing, but it basically showed numerically that teams that lose a bunch of close games are the most likely to gain the most victories the next season. Heck, MSU did the exact thing already once in the Coach D era. The idea is that basically close games even out over time. We were something like 2-6 in close games this season. So next season we should be 4-4 in those games, already making us a 9-4 team. Throw in some improvement at QB and a huge schedule advantage and 11 wins would be a pretty normal prediction. I'd guess Rexrode pegs us at 10 wins next season.
This board is so jumpy. As soon as we do well, everyone thinks national championship. As soon as we have some bad breaks everyone thinks we suck. The fact is that since Coach D gained traction we've won on average 9 games a season. We have an amazing defense coming back next year and we play the easiest schedule in years. If you're guessing less than 9 wins, i think you're seriously just too dejected from the stagnant offense and close losses this year to think straight.
I mostly agree with this, especially about the jumpiness of the board, but QB play is just too important in the college game, and there is just no evidence (yet) that it will be better, let alone drastically improved. Also, I just can't imagine what kind of year it would have been without Bell, and that's what we have going on next year. And you can take another proven weapon away with Sims' departure. Kicking game?
I think 8/9 wins is reasonable, 10 isn't a huge stretch but 11 would be a reach. Just too many question marks along with what looks like two absolutely definite losses in @ND/NEB.
This is pretty much the number one thing we need to know before making a prediction. If the level of play at QB doesn't improve, I have us at 7-5 or 8-4. If we see significant improvement, I can see us going 9-3 or 10-2.
In fact, since we're making "way too early" predictions, I predict that we keep our streak alive and hold UM to 10 points total. (I'm talking about our 9-year streak of holding them to successively lower scores).
This post was edited by TheAxMan 18 months ago
another disappointing year.
"Put your mother in a straight-jacket you punk ass white boy." ~ Mike Tyson
That will be one ugly game. We win 7-6. We kick two FGs and on the last play of the game UM scores, botch the snap and the holder yakity sacks all the way into the other endzone for the first conversion safety in the history of college football.
Weird that you can end a game with 1 point in college, but not in the NFL or high school.
Very true, Michigan has a lot of 4 and 5 star Linemen, but they will be extremely young and i don't care how much talent you have, you won't just come in and dominate. The year or two after that, is a different story. I think best case they are 10-2 worst case 7-5, but i think 8 0r 9 wins is more likely.
With this offense
Aug. 31 WESTERN MICHIGAN W 28-3 1-0
Sept. 7 SOUTH FLORIDA W 17-6 2-0
Sept. 14 YOUNGSTOWN STATE W 31-3 3-0
Sept. 21 at Notre Dame L 28-10 3-1
Oct. 5 at Iowa L17-16 3-2 (0-1)
Oct. 12 INDIANA W 31-13 4-2 (1-1)
Oct. 19 PURDUE W 5-2 21-13 (2-1)
Oct. 26 at Illinois W 24-6 6-2 (3-1)
Nov. 2 MICHIGAN W 17-16 7-2 (4-1)
Nov. 16 at Nebraska L 31-10 7-3 (4-2)
Nov. 23 at Northwestern L 21-13 7-4 (4-3)
Nov. 30 MINNESOTA W 27-17 (5-3)
Michigan State University is the university of Michigan
Look, they had close W's vs. Boise State, Indiana, Wisky and TCU
They had close L's vs. tOSU, UM, Iowa, Nebraska and Northwestern
That's 4-5 in close games. That's pretty much a wash.
Here's what needs to improve for MSU:
1) QB Play
2) WR play
4) Replacement RB
5) Pass Rush
You could summarize that as "the entire offense needs to get better."
Even if Maxwell gets benched like everyone is clamoring for, you're going to end up with a very inexperienced player back there. In other words, you have a repeat of '12 in terms of experience. There will be ups, downs and plenty of bad decisions.
The WRs should be better by virtue of experience, but these guys have not shown the ability to get open, except for Burbridge. Desperately need an upgrade there.
TE: Just lost an NFL TE to the draft. Good luck replacing that; even playing hurt he put up the 2nd best #s of the Dantonio era for a TE, better than anything Gantt or Linthicum did.
OL: IF they stay healthy, they could be better.
RB: It's a complete ?. It could be ok. There won't be a single RB that approaches what Bell did this season, but a platoon could be as effective. May even see a little scoring improvement, due to a faster RB.
Pass Rush: Well, MSU got 10 career sacks out of their 5-star stud DE, or as many as St. Dic had his SR year. Going to miss Gholston's rush D and physical presence, but MSU could actually have improved pass rushing #s. Run D may suffer a little, though I think DT is a strength next season.
All in all, there's a lot that has to improve. It's not like MSU has a bunch of FR that can come in and make an impact; most recruits don't start stepping up until their 2nd or 3rd year. If these areas are going to improve, it's going to come from development within the program. We'll see how the spring game goes, but there's a lot of work to be done.
This post was edited by MalibuMan 18 months ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Not really concerned about UM's O, though Gardner's a better passer. I'm more concerned about MSU's O improving against what's probably the #2 D in the conference behind the Spartans. I have it as a toss-up though; it should be a 1-score game for the next 2-3 seasons.
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