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These are the numbers of recruits over the last 4 classes. Big difference. Did scUM really lose/force off that many more players than us. When does there classes become smaller? Almost seems like Alabama like recruiting.
Or a lot of attrition due to 2 coaching changes. There will probably be more players leave as well. It happens.
I hate them, but this is what happens when you have multiple coaching changes and the sucessor is not form within the staff. It happens all over college football. We have stability right now so obviously less guys are going to leave.
Don't you remember the Rodriguezed thread.
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We've lost 15 of 27 from the 2010 class alone due to not qualifying/academics, injury, transfer, or quit football. I wish our number was smaller, too.
79 is a really low number for 4 classes. If everyone played exactly 4 years, you would have 85, so it shows you have a strong redshirt program and coaching stability over that time.
NCAA needs to step in and say you get X number of recruits a year, if too many leave (on their or own or are forced out) then you have to play with what you have left. Alabama/sec won't have the advantage of trying on players like they are suits to see if they fit and getting rid of the ones that don't pan out, which, at the moment basically gives them an extra recruiting year (every 4 years they get 5 years worth of recruits.) It will also stop Urban from bringing this over-signing crap to the Big Ten.
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Your foolish If you think that UM and O$U are playing it clean.
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As Gary said, see the Rodriguezed/Hoked threads. Massive amounts of attrition has allowed them to recruit 22+ guys repeatedly.
That should also be taken into account when it's said that UM is out-recruiting MSU by leaps and bounds; can't just look at the recruiting rankings, have to look at who's actually still on the roster.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Why don't those numbers work in MSUs favor in head to head recruiting? Obviously going to UM is an uncertain future vs MSU.
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They also offered and received a visit from nebrAska commit and OL Dan Samuelson. It's obvious that what they are doing is oversigning at the offensive line. This garaunteed that someone is going to work out.
There are a lot of kids that have/are getting burned by u of m's sneaky and deceptive coaches
I don't know about sneaky or deceptive, but they've had a lot of OL attrition. If Lewan leaves, I think that has them without 4 of their top 6 OL going into next year. RichRod really screwed them over; took 1 OL in 2010 who was gone, and then 2 of the OL from '11 also left. I think he ended up with 1 OL on the roster between 2 classes.
Not defending the practice of recruiting 7 OL in 1 class (though Terry Hoeppner did that at IU the year before he died, called them his "7 Blocks of Limestone"), just explaining why UM is on a mad dash for OL and why the roster looks attractive to prospective OL.
So who's getting burned?
just wondering where the numbers came from. Per Rivals between 2009-2012 the count is 94 Michigan, 87 MSU. Had to check the math because 79 didn't seem to cover even the usual attrition. Numbers for others were OSU 93, Wisky 76 and Notre Dame 81. The surprising number to me was Wisky (too low). Schools with solid coaches and no coaching changes (Dantonio, Bielema) have done a good job holding onto talent.
For Fun: Alabama 103, South Carolina 109, LSU 99, Ole Miss 111, Arkansas 113, Texas Tech107
Apologies........looked at your numbers and it looks like you went 2010-2013. It's not NSD yet.......I'm pretty sure Dantonio is going to bring in some more recruits......have a little faith here!!
This post was edited by GoBlueNorth 19 months ago
Yes per Rivals and did include the 2013 current verbal.
I think you first need to look at how many commits actually enroll in the fall. From there you can start looking at shenanigans.
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MSU also gives schollies to walk-ons.
The talk during the off saeson was that UM had no OL depth.... Needs to adressed somehow???
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