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tRCMB - Where MSU fans eat their own.
You aren't understanding what I'm saying. I'm illustrating that even a supposed great recruiter can't recruit beyond some limitations.
Like it or not, every single Big 10 school besides tOSU has a distinct disadvantage in terms of location. Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, IU and Purdue all are from talent-poor states. Illinois and Northwestern, MSU and UM compete with each other in states that have enough talent to produce one very good program, but doesn't have the talent to support 2.
PSU comes the closest to tOSU in terms of in-state recruiting advantages, but even they have to contend with Pitt.
Just demanding teams "recruit better because the SEC does it" is sloppy analysis at best. You have to look at WHY the SEC recruits better than the Big 10 and what the Big 10 can do differently.
As I pointed out in another thread, the 13th best player in Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia and FL this year was a 4-star recruit. The 13th best player in every single Big 10 state not called Ohio was a mid 3-star to a 2-star.
There is just more talent in the South, and like it or not, most of the local talent stays local. Is tOSU willing to share the OH wealth with the best of the conference? Going to tell Kyle Trout not to accept his tOSU offer because MSU could really use a tackle of his caliber? Going to tell Drake Harris you're no longer recruiting him because he could potentially help lift MSU to greater heights?
Didn't think so. So spare me the faux outrage over how the Big 10 as a conference recruits, unless you're truly willing to see tOSU drop to recruiting in the top 20 instead of top 5 in exchange for a couple more Big 10 programs pushing into the top 25.
tOSU and UM take the best talent out of the Big 10 region and the rest of the conference is largely fighting over the scraps.; they're the two most successful programs in the conference so this isn't shocking. Same thing happens in the SEC, but the "scraps" are 4-star guys. In the Big 10, they're 3-stars. I don't see how your remedy this by staying in-region.
There's 2 ways for current Big 10 programs not named UM/tOSU to improve their recruiting:
1) Actively try (and succeed) to poach UM and tOSU's highly rated in-region guys; or
2) Get out of region 4 and 5-stars.
Since I don't think tOSU is willing to share the wealth, I assume you mean #2 is the route you'd like the Big 10 to go.
So let me ask you: how many top OH recruits escape the Big 10 footprint? 1-2 per year? How many of those go to non-national powers? 1 a decade?
The same ratio leave CA/TX and SEC country. The same % are willing to spurn UF, Bama, FSU, Miami(Fl), LSU, UGA, TX, UCLA, TAMU and UCLA to go play for a mid-level regional power like Arkansas, South Carolina, Clemson, etc. An even smaller % are willing to spurn all those top schools and mid-level schools to go play for a mid-level Big 10 school.
Who can attract the top talent from anywhere? The most successful teams in country, a class of which UM and tOSU are the only 2 Big 10 members.
Sooooo, back to my point. If the Big 10 as a conference is going to recruit better, it needs to be able to attract more out of state talent . . . . which only happens when its teams win at a high level . . . which only happens when they attract enough out of state talent, so on and so on.
Bottom line: the non-tOSU/UM teams don't need to change up recruiting tactics, they need to win at a high level with the players they've got.
This post was edited by MalibuMan 17 months ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I'm sure you believe that Delaney "told" the refs not to let MSU win at all costs.
The Father, The Son... well, it's the
The Holy Trinity... as I see it.
Was this linked over at bucknuts? Or is tRCMB actually the flagship for 247?
Too bad Saban was such a lazy ass when he was at MSU.
I don't see it over there, but everything is VIP for the most part.
We're the /b/ of 247.
The rCMB? It's the "t" that you don't capitalize not the "r". Ohio
Now with a PhD in Applied Llama Physics...
Does anybody else find the show Buckwild to be mesmerizing? Those hillbillies are hilarious.
Butt Hurt thread. Rocky, can you translate?
"As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion"
-- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.
agree, guy is a clown.
I'm not following you.
Indiana and Ohio: States that have horrible grammar skills.
you're right. I'm glad you pointed that out, because you are so right... mr. right right righty-right-right. When we OSU fans aren't over here chatting with you Sparties, do the rest of the MSU fans beat the shit out of you because every single post you've written has "whiny" written all over it.
That's what I thought, but alas I'm not paying for the fantastic product that is 247 at the moment.
He doesn't need to, the refs know what "Sweet Lips" prefers. When the QB of a historic program goes down with a fake injury, you sure as hell better blow the whistle.
Only #11 and #12 are familiar to me. Just setting the record straight here, Gentlemen.
6 your an idiot
Please tone down the profanity.
With Urban going national there will be more Ohioans available for other states to get. Also, I think schools like Michigan State need to make more in roads in Chicago. Chicago is neutral recruiting grounds that doesn't routinely send their best players to NW or Illinois.
Irony at its finest
his an idiot, what?
That sentence was awesome! Let's make out
Yeah! Fuck you, you loser! You don't hit shift fast enough! What a piece of shit! You're whole state is shit based on not being able to hit shift!
This post was edited by scott91575 17 months ago
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