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And came across this thread
It seems they have a lot of respect for our team, especially our starting back court. Go to see our players getting recognition from across the league! Stoked for the game this Sunday!
It got me thinking...how do you think we match up?
I think Payne and Nix can give Watford problems. Zeller's going to be a pain, but MSU has guys that can bang down low. Worried about their 3 point shooting and general offensive efficiency, but MSU should be able to clean the glass. Dawson is going to have to get on Oladipo, but I think he can do it (think Buford last year before Dawson got hurt).
Going to be a great game. IU should be favored, but MSU will be in it till the end.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Our team getting league wide respect? You been asleep for 20 years?
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Purdue fans say we are viewed by the league A's a bunch of thugs.
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The IU fans seem to have more respect for MSU than does PU.
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I expect we will see quite a bit of IU zone D in that game as well. Hope our shooters are ready.
Oladipo is much much faster than Buford. That matchup scares me the most. He's just as athletic as Dawson, better shooter, better handles but a few inches shorter.
It will be interesting to see who he matches up against on the defensive end. I would assume that he would match up against Dawson which could give us an advantage down low and with Harris/Appling as I dont think Hulls can stop either of them. If they put Oladipo on Appling or Harris, Dawson has a fantastic matchup. I haven't watched IU a ton this year, so do they play much zone? If so, I could see them playing a lot of it on Sunday.
We definitely have the advantage in the backcourt.... Appling/Harris>>>>Ferrell/Hulls. I think we might see more of Gauna/Costello just to keep Nix and Payne fresh since its most likely gonna be a fast paced game
That's not surprising. IU has some intelligent bball fans.
God it's enjoyable to hear an apposing fan base talk about a game rationally with understanding of the game of basketball and not resort to bitching about a player being a "thug".
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Honestly, there tends to be a mutual respect between most IU basketball fans and MSU. It's not just the Crean-Izzo connection, but it goes back to when Jud and Knight were coaching against each other.
No respect at all for the Indiana football team, but the basketball program gets a ton of respect from me.
I'll be really curious to see what match-ups MSU goes with on defense. I think it doesn't really matter who guards Hulls and Ferrell (though, I'd like to see Harris on Hulls and Applying on Ferrell personally). Dawson and Oladipo is a very intriguing match-up and probably combines the two most athletic wing players in the Big Ten (Rodney Williams should be in the discussion as well when talking athletic wings). That leaves Nix on Zeller and Payne guarding Watford.
Lots of discussion of IU playing zone in this match-up to limit Appling's penetration and to make MSU an outside shooting team. If they do this, we need Dawson to be the possessed rebounding machine he was at Wisconsin as the zone often allows for offensive rebounding opportunities and MSU hasn't proven yet that they have any great outside shooters (though Harris, Trice, or Appling could get hot at any time).
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No one cares what Purdue fans think.
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I would think Izzo would want to slow down the pace of this game considering Indiana is a very good team in transition. I know Izzo doesn't like to do that..but I think it would work in our favor. If the score is in the 50-60 range..we win. If the score starts going out into the 70s we lose this game. We should also try to get Zeller in foul trouble early by pounding and attacking the paint with Payne, Nix, Dawson and Appling. Izzo might want to follow what Wisconsin did to Indiana defensively. Wisconsin has far less talent at each of the positions than we do and they did a superb job in shutting down their shooters and making them work for every shot. Wisconsin is a poor offensive team and they were able to score against Indiana. Indiana's defense doesn't concern me. I like our match ups with Indiana and think we match up better than most teams in the conference.
I would love to see Dawson take advantage of Oladipo in the paint.
Purdue fans are butt hurt because of the loss of Harris and Dawson.
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I also think Trice is a key factor to this game. If he gets hot on the perimeter in the Indiana Zone..I would love for it to open up our inside game with Payne and Nix.
If they zone I want to see a lot of Appling-Trice-Harris backcourt. Keep Dawson at the 4 and don't waste him at the perimeter against the zone. I think we still match up well and I actually think that if given the chance Harris can check Oladipo. I think we can attack a zone.
Oladipo is the toughest matchup for us, I think. Can't fall asleep guarding him, or he'll get to the rack. And you know he's going to be very confident, because he killed us last year in Bloomington.
Zeller is good, no doubt, but he can be taken out of the game if our bigs play good defense without fouling. Two points and four turnovers against Penn State last night, but he's also got a long stretch of 15+ point games this season. Nix and Payne have to play smart, because I think Zeller would eat Gauna alive on the block.
As a team, they rebound well and share the ball. They might be the best rebounding team that we've faced so far. Looks like a good FT shooting team, too.
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All this match up talk is getting me too excited for Sunday.
Agreed. If you bring Gauna in at any point, I think you have to play him with Payne or Nix and you can't let Gauna guard Zeller. I still think Gauna could turn into a good role player for MSU over his career, but he's not ready to deal with Zeller in the post. Either that, or Izzo strategically plays Gauna when Zeller is out of the game. I think both Nix and Payne should be able to push Zeller around in the post and frustrate him.
The one advantage for MSU if we try to play Gauna on Zeller is that Zeller will have to follow him to the perimeter on defense. Still wouldn't risk it though.
My biggest concern about this game is that IU is really good at drawing fouls and shoots a ton of FT's each game. If the refs let us bang around we'll be good if they call it tight (against us) we're screwed.
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Depends on Watford. If he is in the game at the same time as Gauna he will cover him on the perimeter, while Zeller stays down low with Payne/Nix. Unless we have Gauna in as our only big, but I can't see that happening without horific foul trouble.
IU zone has not been good this year.The fans are cringing at the thought of seeing it. Yogi and Hulls at the top of the zone are not intimidating. Last year IU had a bigger guard to put on Dawson and they put Olidipo on Appling in the second game in Bloomington. Jones was the guard they had on Dawson. Now they have a matchup problem. Olidipo has to guard either Appling or Dawson. Which leaves Hulls on the other one and Yogi on Harris. Also IU will have problems rebounding out of that zone. With the way Dawson has been cutting to the basket, they can play zone. They will not have the length on the perimeter to bother our passes.
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