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I have been going back and forth on a job and related title. They are viewing "Managing Director" as a very high level position. I am pushing for the V.P. title (and related beni's). They actually have "Executive Director" below "Managing Director".
I get that the "Managing" classification puts you in a potential staff oversight role (ie Managing Partner), but the word still has a negative connotation for me.
Am I missing something here? What does that title mean to you?
Director -> (Adjective) Director -> VP
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At my company, the "Managing Directors" oversee certain areas of our business, and make just below what the "Principals" or "Partners" make. It's a good job title to have around here...
They're trying to screw you by sticking you with a title that gives them the long-term advantage. Hold out for VP or nothing. They will crack eventually.
Hide yo quarterbackz, hide yo kidz, the MSU defense is here
don't you have to make it above burger flipper first?
It's really time to put your foot down here. Don't let them mistreat you like this. Tell them to go fuck themselves if they don't change your title.
What industry are you in?
In financial services/banking, Managing Director is several rungs (and numerous pay grades) above VP.
I work in advertising and the woman who runs our office and is the head of account services has the title of Managing Director (yes, a woman oversees our office...bizarro world), but my title has VP in it and she's my boss. So it varies according to role and industry.
Bruco also has VP in his title, but is not a true VP in the standard sense of the term.
As I was saying...
Bruco is in banking, so what you're saying holds true.
Knibb High football rules
Your strategy of polling tRCMB dredges is a good one. I always like to take advice from a group of folks that only know "anal" "he gone" "288" and "on her".
i would ask the advice of your cmu relatives.
Depends on context & industry. In the "normal" corporate world (not legal, banking, consulting, or finance) I've seen it generally go like this:
President/CEO > V.P./CIO/COO/etc. > Director > Senior Manager > Manager > Asst. Manager > Grunt
I've generally seen the subdivision among V.P.s like this:
Exec./Senior V.P. > V.P. > A.V.P.
Now "director", as in one of the board of directors responsible for overseeing company management, is entirely different and I assume not what the OP is referring to.
This post was edited by Heat Miser 2 years ago
Guinness makes you drop mud.
It sounds very impotent.
Amazingly, the vast majority of posts in this thread are spot on. Like everyone else said, it depends on the industry. In banking/finance/professional services - MD is generally a very lofty title.
To me it's one of those titles like general manager. Doesnt sound that impressive but actually carries a lot of responsibility. In my experience US companies use general manager & european ones use managing director.
Right. I suspect that someone up for seat on a Board of Directors would not be asking the RCMB for opinions about his title.
On the other hand, corporate America would be a better place if people on the Boards of Directors whiled away their days on the RCMB.
If you can't cypher this out without asking the nameless rabble on a message board, I'm surprised it's even a concern.
As previously stated, Managing Director is a prominent title within finance. It's also prominent within the airline industry (and considered executive management).
This post was edited by MSU_Lew 2 years ago
In financial services, PMD is the only title higher than MD. Even the CEOs are PMDs, I believe. The VP title is broadly used, and has at least 4 tiers.
if you are going to talk shit about other people at least try to know the words you use
We've got depth. We've got numbers.
We have a new spelling Nazi I see. Sorry, it is "drudges", not "dredges". My fat fingers don't work well with a mobile keyboard. I don't think I'm alone in that respect. I hope you'd think I'm smart enough to know we aren't some sort of boat. The whole idea of the discussion is that a managing director is a position of prominence where those of us that that post 24/7 talking about craft beer and gelvin torberg probably don't have such a position. Rather, they are drudges. So why ask the drudges of tRCMB about such a thing. So, get off your spelling Nazi high horse and join the rest of us dredges. Crap, I did it again.
it's "dregs" you fucking retard
Not sure what crawled up your backside pal, but whatever it is apparently prevents you from understanding this
drudge 1 (dr j) n. A person who does tedious, menial, or unpleasant work.
That said, your dregs suggestion could just as easily be used, but changes the entire context.
You might be a "grunt", but there are plenty of folks here (not just Tanfan) who are fairly high up on the corporate ladder.
A 6 figure salary does not necessarily preclude one from taking interest in the lighter things like Steak & BJ Day (we'll see shortly if tMrs. is buying in to this "holiday").
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