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I hate war
That Hardcore History podcast I referred to earlier had a great series about the Eastern Front called Ghosts of the Osfront. Just fascinating because both countries were led by psychopaths, and what that meant for tactics and the everyday soldier. You being shot because someone from your platoon was a deserter, etc. The Germans were absolutely ridiculous to the people of eastern Europe on their march east, and then payback was a serious bitch for German citizens as Polish, Russian, etc. troops moved into Germany.
Zen Cart! dchha27 Ghosts of the Ostfront I [Ep. 27] - Description: Part One covering the conflict between the Germans and the Soviet Union in the Second World War. Dan gives an introduction to the subject and discusses the causes and opening moves of Operation Barbarossa. Keywords: Second, world, war, two, Hitler, Stalin, Churchill, Russia, Nazi, Jew, Poland, partisan, Barbarossa, Wehrmacht,
And just think, the trenches were dug after the war began by fighting in revolutionary/civil war style battle lines, but with rifles rather than muskets. It was a pretty incredible war. Modern weaponry with archaic strategy and tactics.
Sorry, but only the soldiers in the red coats were Brits. The others were Americans. And yeah, I'm sure the Brits lost because of their disinterest. Was that your problem in WWII as well when we had to save your asses?
Nah. Most considered themselves to be British subjects. If Parliament had given the colonies a few members to represent them, there never would have been a war (at the time anyway.)
Also keep in mind that the colonists were really in these groups when the war started:
1/3 Loyalists (to the crown)
1/3 Didn't care one way or the other
psst, shut up Trev. I am not trying to be historically accurate, I am giving the Limey a hard time. Play along.
yeah, it depends on which side you were on. I'm sure Germans and Brits would say WWI. Russians and Japanese would probably say WWII. Americans, got to be CW.
WW1. Trenches and the flu? Forget that.
I don't think this is directly responsive to the topic at issue. . . but I remember an occasion which occurred many years ago that comes to mind. I was a grunt in the Army in An Loc province in RVN in 1971 talking with a few buddies one night, and we were talking about grunts who had fought in other wars using our same equipment. We were taking our jungle green camouflage covers off our steel pots. . . looking at the desert camouflage that existed on the opposite side of the cloth/canvas covers. We were also then speculating where the desert camouflage would next be used by US GIs. In 1971 our speculation was Israel. I guess we were a few countries off.
The tactics in the Civil War were generally outdated by that time as well. Rifled muskets were the norm of the day. Some historians argue that the Civil War could really be classified as the first modern war. Just think, only 5 years after it ended was the Franco-Prussian war that most would argue was Europe's first modern war.
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