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Izzo's assistants can't coach big men - strike that - shooters.
There is merit to this thread.........UM can really shoot it, no doubt. I believe it is because the 3 is such a integral part of their offense, they spend more time than most in practice shooting. You are only allotted so much time to practice, they choose to allot their time towards that. MSU is a more well rounded team, and spend much more time on rebounding and defense. It is about choices coaches make. It is why UM is not a good rebounding or defensive team, they don't work as much at it.
I would say ball handling is a bigger concern. We're not likely to lose any shooters next year except maybe Payne, and I hope that Valentine and Kaminski can fill in for those 1-2 treys a game.
We need to cut down on turnovers, by a lot.
I mention payne plenty in this thread. Trice wasn't available, we had no other options beyond Harris. He was the only person we could count on at Indiana. Our inside game is going to be severely lacking next season since Costello, Kaminski, and Gauna are all big time question marks and Payne isn't a true center. My hope is that Dawson can develop a little bit deeper shot and Byrd can wake up... we do that and we start to look a lot like the 2000 team minus an AJ Granger type...
I don't think it's a matter of the conversation not being allowed, it's just that the premise is flawed. Tom Izzo recruits shooters. He just doesn't prioritize them over athletes, rebounders, defenders, etc. John Beilein's philosophy is to recruit shooters above all else.
Spartan fans waiting for Tom Izzo to recruit a team that beats opponents 95-90 are going to be waiting a long time. He's never going to prioritize scoring over defense or rebounding.
And yet we got knocked out of the tournament by a team who vastly outshot us, so maybe what you're saying is Tom Izzo's approach is all wrong?
Funny thing is if we were flipped with UM in the brackets we prob lose last night instead of UM.
I keep hoping that Byrd can give us half of what Stauskas gave UM this year
Rogue Leader= Obese coward who didn't attend MSU and has no college degree
One player outshot us. Change the entire system, sure. Curry shot it great. The rest of Duke, not so much.
Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.
Sadly, thats all it took. One hot player. We used to win games where one guy had a career night because we had four of our guys to their one.
I was wondering that myself last night as Hardaway went 0-4 from 3.
Yes - one instance should definitely outweigh the full body of work.
Does our 2009 Final Four not count beacuse we got embarrassed by UNC and Maryland? That same year we also lost at home to PSU and Northwestern and couldn't get out of the 2nd round of the BTT.
In 2010 we lost to Minn in the first round of BTT. Then we needed a miracle shot to beat Maryland in the NCAA tourney. Should we discredit our FF that year?
um went out and beat the teams they had to get to a championship game. doesn't matter what they did earlier in the year. just like it doesn't matter what we do during a basketball year, it matters what you did in March.
This post was edited by Spartan Punk 12 months ago
I'd like to have an NBA team too. There are only a few hours a week the coaches get to coach these kids. Obviously the system that our coaches teach focuses on defense, rebounding, toughness, and effort. I wouldn't trade Izzo for anyone, but if you're into the need-to-get-hot-at-the-right-time-to-put-together-a-run-once-every-20-years type of offense, you're a fan of the wrong team.
Wouldn't it be awesome if we had shooting guards that shoot career 40 percent from the field?
I'm not reading this thread and just putting this here (but it has probably already been said).
Why are MSU players so much tougher and much better rebounders than UMAA players?
All I care about are championships.
Michigan doesn't waste time in practice working on defense, rebounding and late game strategy. Beilinen's philosophy is to have a lot of shooters. He hasn't quite grasped the concept that one player shoots at a time and the closer you are to the basket the easier it is to make a shot. Also, for half of the game your entire team plays defense.
This post was edited by rodent 12 months ago
update your stats.... the season ended yesterday, not 3 months ago.
Threads like this appear every season we don't win it all. Past candidates include:
"Shouldn't Izzo be considering the dribble drive offense like Team X?"
"Izzo should implement more zone like Team X."
"Why can't Izzo develop big men like Team X?"
Tom Izzo's system has worked reasonably well if you consider the hall of fame reasonable success. He will not win a title every year, and he will not go to a Final Four every year, but more often than not his system produces positive results. Being beat one season by the Memphis dribble drive did not signify a failure of his system, nor does being beat one season by a three point shooting ace.
Stop the insanity.
So you are saying Burke is very hit or miss, Hardaway is very hit or miss and Robinson is very hit or miss since Trice shoot better from the 3 than any of them. Next time please keep your ignorance to yourself. Everyone just got dumber from reading your posts.
Wait, where did I ever suggest we change the system or even blame coaches, all I asked was why we can't shoot as well as UMAA... some of the good answers were "because you only have so much time to practice and we focus on rebounding and defense" and some of the bad answers were "STFU go root for UM if you like good shooting so much! naaaaaaah!"
Okay, lets say Trice were actually available for most of the season, wasn't a back up player, and kept up his percentage in volume... lets pretend.
Now you have Harris and Trice as your viable outside scoring threats, I guess you could say Payne could be added to that list in the latter half of the season (who, by the way, missed more the more he shot too)
So... you have Burke, Hardaway, Robinson, Albrect, Stauskas, and probably some other players I"m forgetting because fuck U of M. They had depth at shooting, we didn't. That is all I'm saying. We had very limited options for shooting, but hey... we did have an inside game, we did have some slashers, and we did score in other ways. But, down the stretch, we couldn't shoot well enough to win. They could.
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