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Weren't we second or third in the conference in 3-point shooting percentage? Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
sure, percentage... but when you barely shoot percentage doesn't mean much... and you barely shoot when you don't have hardly any guys who are green lit to shoot.
Fair enough, just not very clear throughout. wouldn't say we've never been able to shoot, but consistency is an issue. This year was tough and we did lack solid perimeter shooting. I just don't think it's something to be too concerned with moving forward.
wait a minute, we were #3 in the conference (by percentage)
I'm concerned about our ability to score is maybe my broader point... especially losing a major pillar of our post presence and our returning post man being a very good, but very rangy (which is sometimes a bad thing)... hopefully it opens up more opportunities for dawson, harris, and appling to slash.
Harris has the sweetest shot since Respert, Trice can nail the three regularly, Payne is getting better, and Appling has an effed up shoulder.
Our game isn't jacking threes. If we have the path UM had to the finals (and our guys are healthy), do you think we have to make up 14 points against Kansas in the last 5 minutes? I'm not taking anything away from UM--they had a great run. Our game is made on defense which lets us play past a cold shooting night. UM has a cold shooting night, and they're toast.
Izzo would laugh in your face for saying we don't need a group of tough guys. After slapping it, that is.
That second question is rhetorical, right?
It's all perception actually. I understand what the OP was trying to get at but there is no way to get to it without anyone assuming you're knocking the team.
For me this season at least all those close games against teams well below us in talent and the games against the IU's and OSU's where it seemed like we missed numerous open shots.
Add that to Michigan just catching fire in the tourny and that is what the perception is. Then you add in our piss poor scoring drought against Duke and it looks like this team never shot a jumper in their life.
Mark my words, with Nix gone I'd bet we look like a lot better shooting team because I think there will be a lot of movement on offense and forcing teams to have to cover more ground.
I'd bet next year this team looks a little 2005ish and a little 2009ish will more motion and hopefully more transition open shots.
MSU was 3rd in the conference in FG% and 5th in 3pt %. Hardly terrible. MSU's offensive struggles have a lot more to do with their poor turnover numbers than shooting. We actually had a negative turnover margin this season (11th in the B1G). Fix that and the offense will look a whole lot better. Would it be nice to have another big time shooter? Sure, but it is really not as big a deal as the turnovers.
Edit: FG%/3pt % rankings in conference for the last few years.
2010-2011: 11/6, went 19-15. Yikes.
Usually we are pretty good. Our turnover margin rank in those years: 10, 10, 9, 9. Negative each year.
This post was edited by ItsADoubleDion7 12 months ago
But Gauna is a shooter, much like Byrd. Were loaded .
So much awesome in this thread.
Not if we played an all around game. We did that one time this year and destroyed the little sisters . We bottle that up , we burn couches.
Defense wins championships; ball control is second. We didn't advance and win a title because of turnovers and failure to close out on screens. As has been stated ad nauseam, our shooting is the last of our problems.
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