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Well, technically it used to go longer than that. Twelfth Night (the Twelfth Day of Christmas) is technically the night of January 5th. They still celebrate it some in Europe. It was considered bad luck to keep Christmas decorations up after Twelfth Night. Epiphany is January 6th.
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We need to bring that back. Close all offices for the 12 days of Christmas, and let's celebrate the season how it should be celebrated.
Maybe you should talk to the Pope.
A book by released this week by Pope Benedict VI looks at the early life of Jesus -- and debunks several myths about how the Nativity really unfolded.
Some places it was celebrated until Candlemas (celebrates the "Presentation of Jesus at the Temple") which is on February 2nd.
And by celebrated it certainly didn't involve children. I've seen it described as a drunken, sex-filled orgy of a festival, similar to mardi gras but lasting weeks.
The upperclass Victorians really turned it into the kids and family-friendly holiday we know today because they were sick of how out of control it was. There's a great story in the book I linked to above about wassailing gone wrong in 17th century Salem, Mass.
"Historian Stephen Nissenbaum recounts an instance of Christmas keeping in seventeenth-century Massachusetts as an example of a wassailing gone very bad. On Christmas night of 1679, four young men of the village of Salem entered the house of septuagenarian John Rowden, who was known to make pear wine, called "perry," from trees in his orchard. The men made themselves at home in front of the fire and began to sing. After a couple of songs they tried to cajole Rowden and his wife into bringing them some of the new wine. Rowden refused and asked the intruders to leave, to which they responded that "it was Christmas Day at night and they came to be merry and to drink perry, which was not to be had anywhere else but here, and perry they would have before they went."
When the visitors promised to return later and pay for the drink, Mrs. Rowden said, "We keep no ordinary to call for pots." By "ordinary" she meant tavern, and by "pots" she meant alcohol. The four men left, but three returned a quarter-hour later and tried to pass a piece of lead as payment in coin. The Rowdens and their adopted son, Daniel Poole, got the men out the front door, but they wouldn't leave and called sarcastic taunts from the street. John Rowden later testified to the violence that broke out next:
They threw stones, bones, and other things at Poole in the doorway and against the house. They beat down much of the daubing in several places and continued to throw stones for an hour and a half with little intermission. They also broke down about a pole and a half of fence, being stone wall, and a cellar, without the house, distant about four or five rods, was broken open through the door, and five or six pecks of apples were stolen."
Kids, this is what we refer to as going gHostal.
when someone says Happy Holidays to me I get all huffy and say Merry Christmas like a 75 year old woman just to put everyone in a bad mood. just like Christmas should!
Sparty is our mascot, we are Spartans.
If it weren't for Jesus, there wouldn't be a Merry Christmas or happy holidays.
Thanks, beat me to it. Christmas as a Christian holiday is completely incoherent. It was basically the Saturnalia festival appropriated by Roman Christians and evolved over the years. But, there is essentially zero significance to December 25th in actual Christianity.
So Happy Holidays everybody! I hope you get a box of Kleenex in your stocking.
Do you watch the news or read the paper?
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No that's just why they chose to celebrate Christmas at that time of year so early christian would not be tempted to attend pagan festivals.
They are taking down the christmas carolers outside of Owen because one person complain. We have to be tolerant of minorities, but they need to have everything their way
This is exactly what I mean, it's fucking bullshit. Someone needs to punch the complainer in the face.
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yep. I haven't heard of any large scale boycott against any stores for saying "Merry Christmas" like there are against stores that say "Happy Holidays." Never mind that December is pretty much a month with many holidays, such as Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, Festivus and my favorite, Boxing Day, where my wife and I put gifts under the Pacquiao Tree.
I really need some help today. Not like Charlie Sheen needs help, but I need your assistance with something that has bothered me for awhile. I really need to know why do so many people get
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"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
you must be the gHost of Christmas Present.
Anyone up for a RCMB gift drawing exchange through Amazon? We could exchange Amazon wishlists, set a limit, set up a drawing, and the buy a gift for the person assigned? gHost you in?
Drunken Mardi Gras please.
Wait...I already do that.
<---- Jew who hates "Happy Holidays". It's crap. First off, It's meant to not offend nancies who get offended by everything. Good luck with that.
Secondly, Hannukah is a minor Jewish holiday, historically. It's a secular event that celebrates a military victory over the Greeks. It's as important to the Jewish culture as Cinco De Mayo is to Mexicans. It's elevation has been an American phenomenon, one done as a "keep up with the Jones's" so Jewish kids would also get presents and not feel left out. No one goes to Temple on Hannukah as a religious obligation. Hell, most American Jews couldn't even tell you the story of Hannukah.
Thirdly, here are a list of popular Christmas songs written by Jews, who are supposedly offended by Christmas.
Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer
Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree
Its the Most Wonderful Time of the Year
I'll be Home for Christmas
Let it Snow
There's No Place Like Home for the Holidays
Finally, Christmas celebrates the birth of a Jew. How very anti-semitic
I never met a single Jew who had a problem with "Merry Christmas". If someone has a beef with the lights, the music, the decorations, the pageantry, then they're just a sour, miserable human being...and those lovely people come in all shapes and stripes.
Merry Christmas, RCMB.
Yeah, nobody's offended by Merry Christmas. Christmas is commercialized into something about trees and presents and red and green stuff and Santa. But different people celebrate different holidays this time of year, so happy holidays is more inclusive. I still usually say merry Christmas, knowing that my atheist friends still celebrate Christmas in the popular American cultural sense.
First world problems. Ghost, if this is really a problem in your life then you need to get some perspective and stop being such a .
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
The thing I don't like is if a company or a schools puts up something about kwanza or Hanuka they are diverse and tolerant, but if you put something about christmas up you are close minded and insensitve toother cultures
-1. Bitching about this topic is even more redundant than me bitching about The Roush.
Most churches that I know celebrate Christmas appropriately....try it sometime....there are some really great "unchurchy" churches around that focus on helping others and not the greed associated with the gifts one gets.
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