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Saban and Dantonio are not "best friends." Izzo is closer to Nick than Coach D is.
I don't think anyone is close to Saban. Even his own family.
He needs to do something differently. How much contact do the recruits actually have with Hoke? Isn't it mainly with the assistants?
Guessing they don't have a "go home and pray on it" approach.
The Big 10 has historically been known as "The big 2 and the little 8". Perhaps there is a reason why Michigan and Ohio State are the "big 2" and why Michigan State has been one of the "little 8".
I'll play. Competing with UM and Nebraska for division titles over the next 4-5 years. All five of our conference losses last year were by a combined 13 points. Think about that. Those results have a way of going in reverse the following year, and we have a much easier 2014 schedule. We're going to return the best defense in the Big Ten and an offense that surely can't get any worse with a QB and WRs all coming back with a full year of experience. RB and oline are the two biggest question marks, but every other team in the division has questions as well.
"RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog
My penis and IQ have historically been referred to as the "big" 2 and little 8, respectively. Perhaps there is a reason why Michigan and Ohio State rejected me and why I troll message boards.
Sorry, but you're still living in the Bo/Woody days. It's been OSU and everybody else, and that's more true now that Urban is in Columbus. Hell, Wisconsin has been more relevant than UM recently.
It's not the coach it's the school. MSU really needed to make a RB these past few years.
It's cute how UM and OSU like to band together from time to time. Big two days are long gone. If anything, it's the big one. And UM ain't the one.
All about $$$$$$$
I assume you mean 97' and not 89'. UofM was also pretty close to the game in 06'. The BCS will have come and gone and MSU will have never sniffed a single appearence, yet you want to call UofM irrelavent? Also before Saban Bama was nothing for at least 20 years. There is some serious delusion going on here.
Apparently a lot of coaches disagreed with your " eye " for talent.....say we want about Hoke but as the previous poster stated it's about the narrative......Michigan sells their past quite well and with them keeping in the spotlight with the BCS game they had and even though its a different sport with the FF appearance of their basketball team...the name brand stays out there in the public forum......consistent winning over the years ( not just 3 or 4 ) is the only thing that will change things for MSU...
This post was edited by THEGLADIATOR 12 months ago
I'm sure you realize MSU's relevance or lack thereof has nothing to do with whether UM is/was right?
And you and I both know that UM got MSU's rightful BCS game two years ago. Straight up, UM did not deserve that game. Everyone knows it.
This post was edited by PortlandSpartan 12 months ago
Look, go cry about Burke leaving someplace else.
Nobody gives a shit about you.
Tell you what, dress up in your Steve & Barry's trash and go walk around East Lansing if it makes you feel better.
I don't want to argue with you but go look up michigans 2011 offensive stats compared to rr years. we actually had a 1000 yard rusher besides denard for the first time since mike hart. The offense scored more points than rr teams. Rr teams scored 60 vs umass and indiana though. Other than that, it was a turnover machine
You people have already cornered the market on delusion...along with arrogance and entitlement. Since 1948...1/2 NC in football and 1 NC in basketball...that has survived being vacated only because of the statute of limitations...and you people come here to OUR board to talk smack about how much more relevant your school is than ours.
And WE are being the seriously delusional ones?
"I love March!" - Tom Izzo
Bangbus using the bcs is stupid because its not about earning your way. If it was MSU would have gone in 99,10, and 11. Those were all easily bcs years and MSU earned it. However the bcs isn't about earning your way.
And yes, outside of your delusion, UM is pretty irrelevant on a national stage. You don't compete for national titles and continue to get destroyed by the elite teams you play.
OSU has been the only national relevant Big Ten team for 15 years.
The best evidence for what is "nationally relevant" to people is the national television markets. Winning tends to impact how nationally relevant you are, but ultimately what is "relevant" is just what people care about.
Do people across the country care more about Michigan football or Michigan State football? The answer to this question is the answer to who is more "nationally relevant"... and I think that answer is fairly obvious.
In fact, I often wonder whether or not Michigan football is more relevant to Spartan fans than Michigan State football... considering the success of your team is almost entirely relative to how well Michigan did and/or whether you all beat us in any given year. For instance, Michigan State went 6-7 in 2009, beat Michigan, and everybody viewed that season as a great success. In 2012, Michigan State went 7-6, lost to Michigan, and everybody views it as an unmitigated failure.
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I heard he spends a lot of time with his statue.
So Notre Dame was the most nationally relevant program in the last 25yrs. Got it. Makes sense.
Edit: could there be a more stereotypical UM thought process? Nationally relevant is not a measure of games won, championships, etc. its about how many people watch you on TV or buy your tshirt.
A BIG + 1
I cannot imagine how empty one's life must be to take time to post smack about 1 recruit on a message board of an alleged non-rival.
The difference is, UM fans like to think of themselves as one of the elite blue bloods of cfb. Tell that to a Bama fan, LSU fan, Florida fan, USC fan (Pete Carroll days), OU fan, or even an Oregon fan. They'll laugh their balls off. It's all relative.
It's your kind of thinking that keeps Snooki "nationally relevant".
I read the news today, oh boy .. ..
About a lucky man who made the grade
I didn't know people outside of Michigan and Ohio even gave a shit about Michigan football. They certainly don't down here in the South. ($EC!)
Point of fact...even Notre Dame is more relevant in football than you people...last year's NC slaughter by Bama aside...and they haven't won a NC since Lou Holtz was their HC.
His statue has more personality though.
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