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Question for those of you who follow football recruiting and the daily ins/outs closely:
Do we have the talent in the pipeline to improve on the offensive line next year? If not, are we recruiting this side of the ball well enough to turn it around??
I'd hate to see another year where our offensive woes keeps these team from accomplishing its larger goals.
This post was edited by mdm2005 19 months ago
The will to succeed is important, but what's more important is the will to prepare.
As long as everyone stays healthy.
Can't be worse. The talent is there. Jackson, Allen, Burkland all had Iowa/Wisconsin offers (which mean more than stars). Donovan Clark and Bennie McGowan will probably fight for McDonald's OG spot (unless Jackson shifts over).
We just can't afford another season of losing 2 starters for the year.
Thanks. It would be great to see MSU comeback with a vengence next year, providing Bell, Gholston and the like return as suggested by Kiper.
The question really is, could it be worse?
It can be worse. In 2011 we lost 2 starters for the year to injury (Burkland & Treadwell I think) and we didn't go 6-6. Granted, Fou stepped up very well. The problem runs much deeper than the offensive line staying healthy and I see no reason to be optimistic about the 2013 line being any better than this year especially after losing arguably our best lineman McDonald.
This has been covered but I find it interesting. What offensive lineman under this current staff has showed actual improvement from their redshirt freshman year through their senior season? It seems that everyone peaks as a R-Soph or R-Junior.I would LOVE to see an improved line next year and I think it is possible, just not likely based on past history. I think the WR and QB play should improve enough to make up for an average line.
If we can have our pre-season starters healthy, they can be better. There's plenty of talent there.
To blame the O-line for this year's offensive problems is ludicrous, especially in light of the injuries they had. If Fou comes back next year, they will be as good or better than this year. But they still won't be able to force receivers to catch the ball, to force the QB to make the right read, and most importantly, they still won't be able to overcome bad game plans and worse playcalling by the OC.
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I think Allen is more of a candidate to shift to guard than Jackson. We need jackson at C directing the guys and he is just better at snapping the ball as well.
I'm most interested to see what happens at the tackle spots though. France doesn't seem like the answer but Fou has never been over there and Burkland is not an LT.
The OL is the main reason for the offensive struggles, WRs #2.
Will Dan France be our Left Tackle? Yes, then we are F'd
We will have a mediocre OL which would be an improvement.
No, we are not capable of addressing the OL line through recruiting.
What about the heralded recruits: Klatt, Conway seem like busts to me. Barrent had spinal injury end career. He was our only 5-star OL recruit.
Our biggest weakness is recruiting OL who go NFL. Not a single lineman currently playing in NFL form MSU.
UM, OSU, Wis seem to recruit and/or develop these guys. I wish I knew the answer...
This is correct.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Klatt, Conway, and Barrent. All injured. Barrent was a 4 star not a 5.
UofM and OSU recruit those guys because they have the name. Wisconsin develops them. That's why we're always excited when we land a kid with Iowa and Wisky offers. Typically, it's a kid that will turn into a B1G caliber OL.
The difference is that they develop them and we do not
And Conway was a low 3-star ( along with Reynolds).
Kyle Cook (undrafted) is a starter for The Cincinnati Bengals but MSU hasn't put out a lot of starting NFL OL.That doesn't have a lot to do with all the injuries we've had the last few years.
If we could ever have an Iowa/Wisky offered recruit not be crippled after one game maybe we could develop them The line has been plagued by having absolutely no continuity.
We hear how the O-Line will be improved during every offseason and it never happens
That's not what he's acting like
The truth is that nobody knows. They were supposed to be remarkably better this year and they stunk. They only lost Foreman. Now they're only gonna lose McDonald.
If you are looking to recruiting to solve our O-line problems for next year then you are asking the wrong question. Offensive linemen take longer than anyone else to develop. True freshman simply just don't walk onto campus and become effective Big Ten linemen. You recruit linemen in plans from 3 years down the road, not next year. If you are looking for next year then you are looking JUCO and you better pray you get lucky. Not every JUCO linemen is a Fou Fonoti who can step in and play well in year 1.
They lost Foreman, Jackson and Fonoti.
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