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Worst thing a coach ever said to you

  • DMBSparty said... (original post)

    I have noticed while i officiate that Coaches have gotten better with the language and treatment of the kids, at least during competition. I don't know if the kids and parents just don't put up with it anymore or what. But like I said if I hear a coach swearing or going what I feel is over the top on a kid, I will hit them with an unsportsmanlike. I have heard coaches chew out a kid for doing something unsportsmanlike and I let that go if they are trying to correct what the kid did wrong.

    The mindset back then was if the coach was yelling at you, he still cared. If the coach didn't yell at someone we thought they had given up on us. But a lot of it was wrong and I know a lot of great athletes that could have made it a lot further in sports but they began to hate it. I had a wrestling team mate that beat College All-Americans but after HS said he was done. The sport wasn't fun for him anymore so he quit. I could have walked on at MSU, ( a kid I beat a few times, walked on) but it wasn't fun for me anymore. Now that I officiate I like the sport again and a lot of times as an official you can encourage the kids or even talk to them. I am sure I will yell at my kid when or if he wrestles or plays other sports. But a lot of these coaches confuse yelling and screaming with coaching.

    HS sports are a "hobby". Div I is at an elite level in many places where all of the kids are wither State Champs in their sport or could have been. I had a buddy I use to wrestle with who was in Sports Illustrated in HS, 3 time state champ, 2 time world champ and couldn't cut it at Okla State with John Smith for his full ride (he turned down every Big Ten team including Gable's Iowa, Oklahoma, etc. The fun is different kind of fun at that level- 2-3 practices a day. DIV 1 schools "own" you if your a scholie athlete.

    With regards to coaching, my JV football team got beat 40-0 back in the early 90's (a lack of effort) and when we got back to school, we ran wind sprints. In fact, the coaches ran them too. 10 parents came out on the field and took their kids home. Many parents are "high maintenance" these days and feel entitled; which is where some of their kids get it. Other kids wish their parents would just STFU.. I left 15 years of coaching in 2000 due to all the drama, 6:30 am phone calls, playing time complaints, etc. It wasn't worth the $2.30-$3.00 an hour, despite the success. I chose to spend the 30 hours a week with my own kids.

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  • Colnago Spartan said... (original post)

    HS sports are a "hobby". Div I is at an elite level in many places where all of the kids are wither State Champs in their sport or could have been. I had a buddy I use to wrestle with who was in Sports Illustrated in HS, 3 time state champ, 2 time world champ and couldn't cut it at Okla State with John Smith for his full ride (he turned down every Big Ten team including Gable's Iowa, Oklahoma, etc. The fun is different kind of fun at that level- 2-3 practices a day. DIV 1 schools "own" you if your a scholie athlete.

    With regards to coaching, my JV football team got beat 40-0 back in the early 90's (a lack of effort) and when we got back to school, we ran wind sprints. In fact, the coaches ran them too. 10 parents came out on the field and took their kids home. Many parents are "high maintenance" these days and feel entitled; which is where some of their kids get it. Other kids wish their parents would just STFU.. I left 15 years of coaching in 2000 due to all the drama, 6:30 am phone calls, playing time complaints, etc. It wasn't worth the $2.30-$3.00 an hour, despite the success. I chose to spend the 30 hours a week with my own kids.

    Wrestling requires a different commitment than any other sport. You cannot get by on talent and the work it takes to maintain elite is extraordinary.

    That's why scholarship wrestlers walk onto the football team but scholarship football players don't walk onto the wrestling team

  • Our FB & BB programs were powerhouses in our area, total jock culture, played FB, coaches always had the smart alek stuff, but the only thing that stung was from our super-smart mouthed asst coach, who was also the school's AD: We were 7-1, ranked #7 in the state, a year removed from getting 1 game from the state championship, and when it comes time to announce playoff pairings... we got left out. Was the last year they used the point system, in part because of us- 5 f the state's top 10 teams were in our region, we lost in some convoluted point system 351-350 to a team with a matching record, while teams like cheboygan at 6-3 made the playoffs. So.... we get the news, as a team, in the lockerroom, everyone is way, way down, and he tells us "that's what you get for losing that game." Absolute dickest thing to say at that point, and again, we were ranked 7th in state & 16 teams made playoffs.

    I was the last guy cut my senior year in BB due to some race things, which I agreed with, and that was fun, because my next year in college, I'm playing pcik-up ball with the football team all the time and the BB team on occasion, and always played on the top court at ASU. So, yeah, as a late bloomer, that was nice. At least I got offered a chance to try out for a semi-pro team in Europe...

    This post was edited by mentalstate 3 years ago

  • mentalstate said... (original post)

    Our FB & BB programs were powerhouses in our area, total jock culture, played FB, coaches always had the smart alek stuff, but the only thing that stung was from our super-smart mouthed asst coach, who was also the school's AD: We were 7-1, ranked #7 in the state, a year removed from getting 1 game from the state championship, and when it comes time to announce playoff pairings... we got left out. Was the last year they used the point system, in part because of us- 5 f the state's top 10 teams were in our region, we lost in some convoluted point system 351-350 to a team with a matching record, while teams like cheboygan at 6-3 made the playoffs. So.... we get the news, as a team, in the lockerroom, everyone is way, way down, and he tells us "that's what you get for losing that game." Absolute dickest thing to say at that point, and again, we were ranked 7th in state & 16 teams made playoffs.

    Well, you shouldn't have lost that game.

  • VeniceSpartan said... (original post)

    Good Work DMB, HS Sports needs more guys like you. Maybe more of our armchairs here will apply their expertise and make HS Sports better.

    When I was a Soph in HS (68) we started a rocket FB program and when asked to ref I jumped at it. My buddies and I had a blast and by the time I was a Senior I was the head of the program.

    A neighbor of mine was the coach of his kids team (8-9 year olds) played on a 80 yard field. His kids were amazing little players but their teammates were 8-9. huh

    They had a defensive end who had a hard time containing the sweep and after the kid gets beat he throws his clipboard down on the field. I walked over and dropped a flag at his feet. He asks "what is that for?" I call my buddy over ,ask for his flag ,and drop it that at the dudes feet, and say "That one is for not knowing what the 1st one was for"

    His kids were very talented @ 8-11 and turned into losers as did all of the talented kids, with crazy parents, who I dealt with as a youth coach ump/ref

    A Rocket Saturday was 3 games (8-9, 10-11, 12- 13) our town v a neighboring town

    Coaches constantly told us how much they liked our reffing. "Every town we go to the kid's dad's are reffing and you expect to get screwed. You guys just like to ref and get it straight and we admire you for that"

    Parents are the worst and at wrestling tournaments they have access to everything. They come and sit right next to the mat, yell at their kids and the official. I have stopped matches and made parents go back into the stands and had their kid and/or coach thank me. Hell I have had coaches tell me about the parents that are crazy just so I could tell them to get back in the stands as soon as they get up.

    The Summer Circuit is even worse. A lot of the kids are State Champs and the worse kids are at least State qualifiers, but their HS coaches are not allowed to coach so most of the time it is the parents. I have had to stop matches to get people away from the mat. And the younger ones aren't used to certified officials. The meets are on Sundays and a lot of HS wrestlers officiate them during the season so the parents can push them around verbally, so when thy run into us they hate us.

    Officiating and coaching is very rewarding, you don't get rich, but it is a little extra money. %90 of the time it is fun, the kids are funny most of the time and the coaches are usually cool. It is just the occasional A-hole coach or punk kid that drives you crazy. But you just hit them with Unsportsmanlike Conducts, tell the parents to get back in the stands or you will have them kicked out, and tell the kids to keep their mouths shut.

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  • SpartanElement said... (original post)

    Well, you shouldn't have lost that game.

    True. And yeah, those a-holes we lost to also were a top ten team. And of course, they freakin' lost in the first round. Just like the team that beat us in BB in the regionals which was at their place (top ten in that too) that went on the next week with an easy draw to walk to state and they lost...to a team we beat by 30.

    And btw, we had a solid wrestling program, some top flight wrestlers within 30 pounds of my weight class, and I quit after my junior year, 4 years into wrestling. Would never, ever, ever wrestle in college. When I played at IM west, I'd just look at those guys killing themselves and be so glad it wasn't me. Had the talent, not the crazy. And that's why I always bet on wrestlers with any punching skill in MMA. That said, I got my ass kicked by a brazilian friend 12 years ago when no one knew how to attack brazilian jiu jitsu.

  • Colnago Spartan said... (original post)

    HS sports are a "hobby". Div I is at an elite level in many places where all of the kids are wither State Champs in their sport or could have been. I had a buddy I use to wrestle with who was in Sports Illustrated in HS, 3 time state champ, 2 time world champ and couldn't cut it at Okla State with John Smith for his full ride (he turned down every Big Ten team including Gable's Iowa, Oklahoma, etc. The fun is different kind of fun at that level- 2-3 practices a day. DIV 1 schools "own" you if your a scholie athlete.

    With regards to coaching, my JV football team got beat 40-0 back in the early 90's (a lack of effort) and when we got back to school, we ran wind sprints. In fact, the coaches ran them too. 10 parents came out on the field and took their kids home. Many parents are "high maintenance" these days and feel entitled; which is where some of their kids get it. Other kids wish their parents would just STFU.. I left 15 years of coaching in 2000 due to all the drama, 6:30 am phone calls, playing time complaints, etc. It wasn't worth the $2.30-$3.00 an hour, despite the success. I chose to spend the 30 hours a week with my own kids.

    I see nothing wrong with making kids run wind sprints when it is an effort loss. Stuff like that teaches them to give their all or their would be consequences. And like in my past posts the parents are the worst. I had a parent at a tournament walk up to me and say I was horrible, I then asked him what he was doing in the Wrestling area. Deducted a team point, the coaches told him to stay in the stands and apologized to me.

    The reasons you give against coaching are why I officiate instead of coach. Not to mention that in Oakland county most of the Coaches were D-1 wrestlers, but i could assist until I got a head coaching job. But i would rather spend the time with my family make the extra money working 2 meets during the week and a Saturday tournament. I probably end up making more then the coaches by the end of the season with about %10 of the time spent. When my son gets older I will probably help out, or I just might officiate and not work the days he wrestles. In club wrestling they need all the help they can get so I will probably do that and then once he is in Middle School and High School, just officiate and watch him. That is if he decides he wants to wrestle.I will let the coach do his job without stepping in, I see it all the time. A lot of times the kids hate it just as much as the coach.

    And you are right about the hobby in HS and life in college. The guys I knew that wrestled in college would tell me stories and it was unreal.

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  • I had strep throat & missed a whole week of hs hockey practice. I felt better for our saturday game. Coach said I wouldnt play cause I missed practice. I didn't see the ice in the first period. We got in penalty trouble in the second & he put my in for a shift to even up the lines. I scored a hat trick in that one shift. After the game he said that he was going to sit me for the first period for every game. He was kind of a jackhole. I was second on the team in scoring my senior year & never saw PP time.

  • "You guys are the worst team I have coached in 30 years and I don't even give a shit how this season ends because none you do either" (soccer)

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

  • Gus Chiggins

    "You guys are slower than my grandma's pussy." (freshman soccer game)

  • d mcc

    Inglewood Jack said... (original post)

    I had strep throat & missed a whole week of hs hockey practice. I felt better for our saturday game. Coach said I wouldnt play cause I missed practice. I didn't see the ice in the first period. We got in penalty trouble in the second & he put my in for a shift to even up the lines. I scored a hat trick in that one shift. After the game he said that he was going to sit me for the first period for every game. He was kind of a jackhole. I was second on the team in scoring my senior year & never saw PP time.

    Where did you play?

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  • VeniceSpartan said... (original post)

    Where did you play?

    Midland Dow. We went to the state semi finals my senior year & Frasier kicked our asses.

    This post was edited by Inglewood Jack 3 years ago

  • Bullwrinkle

    Had a little league coach who had made it up to the high minors but never the big leagues. Dude was somewhat bitter (as we all realized later) and seemed intent to make sure we all ended up bitter too. He stuck me in centerfield as I was one of the few kids who could actually run and catch. On the other hand my throwing arm left much to be desired. We had a bad team but actually had a chance to win a game. Up one run in the top of the 7th. We're playing in the pouring rain because the umps don't have the brains to call the game. Guy hits a fly ball over my head. I turn and run, make the catch and coach blowhard is yelling "home, throw it home" as if in a million years I could actually thrown out the kid tagging at third. Maybe if he was in a wheelchair with the brake stuck on, I might have been able to. Anyway, I throw a three hopper to the pitcher's mound, the kid scores and we lose in extra innings. After the game the coach comes up to me and says "My grandmother can throw better than you and she's been taking a dirt nap for 30 years". I didn't know what a "dirt nap" meant so I asked my dad. I told him what the coach had said to me. He said "actually you do throw like a girl". Nothing like positive reinforcement back in the good old days.

    Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury

  • Inglewood Jack said... (original post)

    Midland Dow. We went to the state semi finals my senior year & Frasier kicked our asses.

    My HS hockey team played a non-con at midland Dow back in 2006 or 2007. I remember your rink being feeling huge and cavernous.

    But the worst i ever really got it was in HS baseball. First i am gonna give some back story. I got off on the wrong foot with a first year coach my freshman year when i had to miss 2 out of 5 tryout days because my travel hockey team had playoff games. Anyways he pulled me aside and told me straight up that he didn't think i was committed and didn't want me playing for him. I told him about the hockey playoffs and what not and he was just kind of like "fine, whatever"
    Well i wanted to play in-field but a varsity outfielders coach asked me to try out-field. Turned out i was really good at it and i ended up playing center and left field all through high school. But at the beginning here on the second to last day of tryouts this asst. coach told me that wanted me on varsity out-field as a freshman. I was quite honored. Turns out i didn't get it and when i asked him why all he would tell me was that the head coach had other plans. So apparently this head coach wasn't kidding when he said he didn't want me playing for him.

    Anyways, Junior year rolls around and I move up to varsity. The head coach rips on me a lot but i get decent playing time; not as much as i believed i deserved but i wasn't riding the pine constantly and i was never one to have an attitude so whatever. Anyways, one game I was having a hard time tracking the ball off the bat from center field. There was literally zero backdrop behind the plate at this one school, just a gray, evening sky. I told the coach this and he just kind of brushed it off. Well at one point a kid popped it out to me and i had no idea where it was going. I didn't find it until it was too late and it dropped about 10 feet in front of me. coach flew out of the dugout and ripped me to shreds from about second base in front of absolutely everyone. At the end of the inning, he went at me again in the dugout and sat me the rest of the week. It felt horrible.

    At the end of that season, he was actually forced to resign because he had lost all of us. He was a well known screamer and the kids just hated and feared him. At the end of my junior season, my teammates awarded me the distinction of "having the most ass chewed off at one time" for the year.lol

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by All Ages Shows 3 years ago

  • Oh, and when it came to hockey, the most i ever would get it from a coach was actually my dad back in peewee travel. He always coached my house teams prior to that and coached defense when i moved to travel. Once i made the move to travel, he would give it to me much worse than any of the other players. I can now only guess it was because he didn't want it to seem like he was favoring me or was more critical of me because i was his son and he wanted me to succeed. It was weird because never in my life before or since have i ever been yelled at or gotten into a fight with my dad.

  • Royal

    Not a sport...but my favorite line a "person of authority" ever said to me was a higher-up in the SMB:

    "Royal, if I had a dog that looked as ugly as that move you just did, I'd put him down myself. No hesitation. Get your head out your ass."

  • Gus Chiggins said... (original post)

    "You guys are slower than my grandma's pussy." (freshman soccer game)

    What does that even mean?

  • The worst a coach ever made me feel was during my sophomore year on the track team. I was on the JV squad and had run the 100, 220 and anchored the 880 relay. I was feeling good because I had won the individuals and the team won the 880. 10 minutes after the finish of the 880 the coach comes up to me and tells me I'm anchoring the mile relay. I tell him I'm not in shape to run a 440 because I'm out of gas after competing in three events already. He says tough shit, get ready for the race. I take my position as anchor and get the baton for my leg with the competition already heading into the second curve. I managed to get within 15 or so yards of him by the fourth curve when I hit the bonk. I staggered across the finish line and the coach came up to me and said, "thanks for losing the race for us". I never respected him after that.

  • DMBSparty said... (original post)

    LOL, it wasn't my dad, but once my dad made me walk home from a baseball game because I got picked off. It was 2 miles in my Cleats with my bat bag and everything. That sucked.

    my dad didn't talk to me for 2 days after I played a crap game in a tournament final and we lost....and this was in 7th grade! The next year I blew in the semis yet we won and at dinner he wouldn't let me eat. Things changed when I locked down my guy 2 nights later in the finals and we won. I hated it when my dad came to my games.

    "If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais

  • izzone89

    VeniceSpartan said... (original post)

    Go Crusaders.

    Yeahhh buddy!!

    Remind yourself. Nobody built like you, you design yourself.

  • Reading this thread reminds me, that while not all coaches are assholes, there are a ton of them out there. Sadly, the many of the parents are worse when the kid gets home. Or in the case of a few baseball kids on my team two years ago, while on the field.

    If any of you ever get into coaching, please make sure you're not an asshole. There's a fine line between motivation and humiliation. Look at poor DMBsparty, it's scarred him for life. cry

  • High school football. I forget exactly how it came up, but I made a dick joke while the team was gathered on the practice field to listen to the coach talk. The coach got pissed and said "RasTrent, I heard they call you needle dick the bug fucker. Shut up" lol

    Actually, he was a pretty cool guy. He was a tough dude that just wanted a son. He had 4 daughters.

  • "Gentleman if you're standing here that means you made Varsity. Wait...Cool Runnings, someone talked to you right?"

    Right before I found out I was going to be a junior on the JV squad. Although for the record that season was awesome. I felt like Bull Durham. The vet whose career was over who just did everything he could to help the team. Also I batted close to 400 although being a Junior on JV it felt like I was cheating.

    This post was edited by Cool Runnings 3 years ago

  • "Your Mom makes makes sounds like a chipmunk when she gets really excited."

  • Gus Chiggins said... (original post)

    "You guys are slower than my grandma's pussy." (freshman soccer game)

    What school did you go to? I want a shirt from that school.