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Really?? There is never any ref excuses here lol. I haven't heard anyone blame the loss on the refs, most were just happy that it wasn't an Alabama style beating.
Those guys played college before pro and you knew they were on the field. Clowney not so much...
Clowney had 25 TFL's for the season as a soph. He had at least 2 in this game with one being arguably the turning point of the game when he shot a gap, nailed the guy perfectly, caused AND recovered the fumble. Yeah, everyone of that field knew where he was. Room for improvement? Yes. Did everyone know where he was? Yes. Oh, considering he faced the dirtiest OL in the college game and had his facemask and/or hair grabbed almost every play I'm guessing he was frustrated at times. Look how Will snapped last year against that dirty piece of crap.
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It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Spartan!!!!
May be he had a bad game. As another poster mentioned, he was MIA for major parts of the game and had a total of four tackles.
Misery? My life isn't MSU football brah.
Now with a PhD in Applied Llama Physics...
You think that was the turning point lol how about the fact the secondary could not stop a pass play under 15 yards the whole game .
we have some really stupid fans on this board
Michigan was up by 1 with the ball with 8 minutes left
Damn right that was the turning point
Did you know they were on the field as sophomores? No, I guarantee that you aren't remembering their sophomore years and that you didn't watch Clowney for more than this one game this year. Clowney was a consensus All-American. Of the three players you mentioned, only Green was an All American as a sophomore.
What's next, are you going to tell us that Johnny Manziel is not at the level of Brett Farve, Joe Montana, or Johnny Unitas?
He had 1 TFL against Michigan, fwiw.
Thanks for setting us straight
He may be an all-american but it didn't show that game.
That's fine. I'm just saying it's beyond silly to compare a 19 year old in a single game to the entire careers of three greats that are mostly remembered for what they did late in their college years and/or the pros.
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