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Not believing this non-sense until JYD makes a topic about this.
I would love to see the BIG add UVA only for the pure selfish reason that I live in Charlottesville.
UNC is more connected to UVA than any of the other NC schools. If we are going to talk about sports other than football you have to include soccer, lacrosse and all Olympic sports which UVA and UNC are connected at the hip over.
UNC would love to crush Duke by leaving them in the dust.
I think UNC prefer the SEC over the Big 10. Southern schools are culturally different from the Midwest. The SEC will still dominate the Great South.
UVA has to have a guarantee that Va Tech will end up somewhere if the ACC falls apart, which IMO will happen if they leave. If the SEC starts to initiate conversation with schools and Va Tech is one of them, UVA will then be free to go and would no longer look like they'd be hanging Va Tech out to dry. I have a hard time believing Virginia will up and leave without Va Tech having a solid idea that they'll end up in a major conference, but it may have already happened and that's why UVA would entertain this idea now.
It's going to be all on Delany when it comes to UNC. They'll be the toughest to add by far out of the five that will come into the league since Penn State. He'll have to be the main pitch man while using his connections within UNC as an alum. If he can get enough key people on board, UNC will be in the Big 10. If UNC is too entrenched, it seems Georgia Tech would then get the invite. UNC is the public school pearl of the south and Delany knows it. I hope it's UNC and not Georgia Tech. This thing has to be contiguous or it's going to look stupid.
The Big 10 will not be responsible for killing the ACC. The Big 12 is waiting to make a big time play and when it swoops in after UVA and UNC/Ga Tech leave to invite members (FSU, Ga Tech, Miami, Louisville, Wake?) it will be the end.
Mizzou/Kansas was a lot bigger of an identity to Mizzou than UNC/Duke is to the identity of UNC.
The reason to leave the ACC is money. This is over money and the B10 brings a lot more money to a school like UNC than the SEC and it has nothing to do with sports or tradition at that point. AAU schools exchange research at such a cheaper rate when you are in the same conference. The B10 is all AAU minus Nebraska who were kicked out last year (and was a founding member). This can mean tens of millions of dollars a year. The extra sports money from the B10 is just an added bonus. When the numbers are on paper next to each other there is no comparison. The only AAU member in the SEC is Florida.
This post was edited by SpartyOnDC 18 months ago
Cool story bro, but Georgia Tech is in the ACC.
That's what I get for typing and watching football at the same time. GTech was in the SEC a long time ago. I must have gotten my decades mixed up lol. Proves my point even better though.
The reason Nebraska was kicked out of the AAU was because a bulk of their research dollars came from agricultural research which the AAU dropped. In addition, the University of Nebraska Medical School is a separate entity to the university. If the med school was included, UNL would be in the AAU.
As for the expansion of the B1G, I am mixed about going to 16 but I would like to see Kansas and Virginia.
Fight for the only colors, Green and White!
I'd like to see UVA and Kansas too but it probably won't happen because of the contract the B12 made Kansas sign. All revenue from Kansas sports on TV would go to the B12 for many years to come even if Kansas is in a conference other then the B12. If I remember correctly.
go east / south
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I would like to see 4 more universities added to get a total of 18.
Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia Tech, and Kansas.
Georgia Tech would be my choice. Atlanta seems like a cool city to visit to watch a game.
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What a bunch of horse shit.
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It's funny to listen to guys who know nothing of mid Atlantic universities...I've lived in Virginia all my life, my son goes to VaTech, I have many friends who have gone/have kids at both Tech and UVa (of course I went to MSU). The jewel to get for the B10 is VaTech.
Athletics that matter - ie. football - are all Tech. NOBODY here cares about UVa football. They rarely sell out - VaTech is a difficult ticket to get (and I believe Lane Stadium has larger capacity than Scott Stadium at UVa). Plus, do you like UofM douchebags? UVa is full of them. I equate the MSU-UofM relationship to the VaTech-UVa relationship. Down to earth land grant university vs. pseudo elitist public-pretend ivy. The comparison between these four schools is very similar. Plus, UVa basketball is nothing special at all. They have been irrelevant since Ralph Sampson.
If I had my druthers, VaTech and UNC would be the choices to finish the B10 strong.
UVA is a much better fit based on the profile that Delany seems to be chasing (big research institutions that are number 1 in their state).
UVa is far and away the better fit for the B1G.
They wouldn't be adding UVA because of athletics and we won't be hearing from said douchebags anytime soon because UVA isn't good at sports. Last time I heard, people don't talk shit about lacrosse or men's soccer.
This is about markets and big public research institutions that have great academics. Virginia gets you both and they have alumni everywhere that will eat up BTN. Other than Nebraska, the B1G is not making these additions for football. That argument is busted, for this league and others (SEC wasn't adding Missouri for football, that's for sure).
Virginia Tech is a good school with a lot of B1G traits (land grant, great engineering program, loyal support, in a contiguous state), but they're only going to pick one from this state if they expand and the fact is Virginia has been in the game longer than Va Tech and has considerably more prestige. Virginia Tech will end up in the SEC where they will get to worship their football and be one of the best schools in the conference. Not a bad prize for the runner-up.
UVA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> va tech
Still waiting for boner to enlighten us with a more popular school in Atlanta than GT.
If you believe Delaney's contiguous state statements and the DC TV market UVA makes perfect sense with Maryland joining the B1G. Carry that on and UNC would be next. The monster calling card the B1G brings is the annual income from the BTN and the way its members share revenue. The are both state public universities that also fit the profile.
Both UVA and UNC would see the benefits of being included in the CIC.
Between Maryland and UVA the BTN would be strong in the DC TV market.
I'd be ok with UNC joining the B1G, only for the selfish reason that I'm moving from Chicago to Greensboro, NC in the summer.
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