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Do you (or anyone) know our staff's reaction to this? Is it just the new reality? Is it just UM? What is our response(do we mimic them or stay on the high ground)? Is there no Detroit writer who call criticize this bad form of conduct? Except for recruits contacting us or coaching vacancies it does not seem we do that, or am I wrong?
We do it too. We're actively recruiting a Florida commit right now.
How do you know the kids that UM has offered haven't contacted UM? I would doubt all have, but you're not on the other side to really know either...
Mark Meyers (Toledo), Greg Jones (Minny), Joe Boisture (BC), Zach Hueter (CMU) are a few guys that come to mind who MSU flipped. Now, some did have coaching changes (Jones), but not all. Point being, if there's a talented player that will help a football team, I don't think there's many coaches that wouldn't take the commitment.
Another question: would it be as big of a deal if it was a different school than UM? Demetrius Cooper, for example, was recently offered by Dan Doeren at NC State, is that bad conduct on his part too?
Maybe it was in retaliation for MSU checking in with Dawson. More than likely UofM just wants to fill out their class with good talent and figure Dantonio has a good eye for talent and reducing MSU's class by one talented kid is a bonus since they play us every year and the fans of both schools are hyper focused on that game and record (regardless of what UofM fans say).
If a recruit no longer wants to be contacted, he can let the school know and stop taking phone calls and visits from them.
Once they poach one of our recruits, I'll start worrying. Until then, it's just Hoke throwing his flab into the wind.
Trying to flip other teams committed recruits has been going on for some time. Wasn't so prevalent in the Big 10 until the advent of DickRod at um and now more outright recently with Jabba the Hoke at um and the Urban legend at o$u.
All teams send out regular mailings to both committed and uncommitted recruits who are on their mailing lists. With the rise of social media like e-mail, cell phones, Facebook and Twitter there is even more communication going out to all recruits regardless of their committment status.
MSU coaches don't generally have personal contact with committed recruits unless they receive a response back from a recruit due to mailings, etc. or there is a coaching change at a school of a committed recruit that MSU had a particular interest in. When a HC is fired, all bets are off and all committed recruits are fair game both for MSU and all other schools.
The recruiting landscape has changed drastically over the last few years. Now when it gets closer to NSD, teams will give out late offers to committed recruits just to see if they can create some interest from that recruit. If they think there may be an opportunity to flip a recruit, especially from a rival, they figure, "nothing ventured, nothing gained".
Today's college football recruiting environment is going to continue to escalate to be even more of a cut throat business. All schools will have to adjust to this new fact of life.
did I miss something? they haven't poached anyone have they? who cares if they offer a few guys committed to other schools? All it does is make them look petty, desperate, and even more douchey than their high standard of doucheyness.
You have to remember that we are talking about 17 or 18 year old kids. They might change their minds once a week their entire senior year. I trust our coaches to do right by any kid they recruit. UM is kind of a meat market in football though.
UM withdrew their offer to Dawson and that is why Dawson began looking at MSU.
Correct. IIRC MSU didn't even offer Dawson until after he decommitted from UM, began looking at other schools, took an official visit to Florida, visited MSU, and he had a chance to sit down and speak with MSU coaches with his mother.
Now just recently UM reoffered him.
This post was edited by TheBlitzIsOn 19 months ago
I will always upvote this.
Its how its going these days. Stinks for fan bases but what can you do
This post was edited by RicoX19 19 months ago
Nice spin, weasel.
Wisconsin's coach left. Everyone knows all bets are off if there is a coaching change. Not the same as Hoax or Urban contacting committed recruits where the coaching staff that the kid committed to is still in place.
Perfect example of a kid who commited to a team with a stable coaching staff.
I think Hulk Hogan fucked a Walmart employee and produced that man. I am impressed.
So you're saying Dantonio has never contacted or recruited someone committed to another school? That seems plausible. Good point.
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