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Speculation that Jay Bouwmeester might be going to Detroit.
It would work if we could A) sign him to a long-term deal (at a lower cap number) and B) the Wings could get Franzen's contract off the books.
Calgary can afford to take it atleast
Well glad I turned this one on, ouch
Looks like the Wings are on an Easter egg hunt and they sent the Griffins to fill in today.
The moment is eternal
I've never seen a worse start to a game. This is a fucking embarrassment. 3 goals in less than 5 minutes... one of which we scored on ourselves.
Starting to show some life but at this point it might be a little to late
Wow stupid post
Colaiacovo back in tonight's line up - Lashoff sent to GR
Zetterberg scratched again so hopefully Val can step it up and score...please?
i only care about spartans --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqsAJQc-NCY
I effing hate this organization right now. I understand why this move is made (it's easy to do) but I hate that Lashoff was sent down. He's been one of our better Dmen this year. Sent down to make room for DeKeyser since Colaiacovo is back playing. I'm sorry, but Colo sucks. I'd much rather have Lashoff. Maybe something gets worked out by Wed where he comes back up.
Samuelsson back injured, Nyquist back in, Zetterberg expected to miss again tonight. Howard expected to start (he got plenty of rest yesterday). DeKeyser not expected to play.
its been a long, long time since Wings fans have had to endure this kind of inconsistent play on a weekly basis. lets hope its just a blip on the radar for only 2013 season, and things get back to normal for Wings fans in 2013-2014. gonna be another crazy interesting offseason for holland and illitch.
I find it incredibly interesting that all Wings fans (myself excluded) give Valteri Filppula all kinds of love when all he does is skate well. Hey Val find the back of the net! Screw Nyquist put Tatar in!
Rash generalizations are awesome, bro. Has Val found the back of the net in the last 3 games? No. But nobody else has, either. This whole team is disjointed right now, and it's because of all the mixing and matching by management and coaches. They had a solid run of 3-4 games where the lines were solid and clicking, and they decided they needed to change. Newsflash....if it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm the kind of Wings fan that isn't happy with participation medals. Gotta play well to keep playing.
Are you saying Detroit's defense has been poor this year or has the offense been bad? I can't tell? But on this board it's the usual suspects (franzen, cleary, bert)
No one says shit about Filppula? I don't get it? Anyways Hank is out tonight so maybe someone other than Miller can step up and score, please
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Keep hoping and prepare to be disappointed. Wings are just as bad as they look, and have been bleeding talent w/o replacement for awhile now.
win a home game tonight. right the ship. find a way to get healthy.
Effort is never an issue with Filp the way it is with Franzen. You can just tell that Franzen is doggin it on about 50% of his shifts.
You saying everyone that nobody dogs Fil for anything is grossly misguided. Yes, he skates well. Yes, he occasionally puts the puck in the net. Eggy hit the nail on the head...Fil gives about 1000% more effort than Franzen on most nights. I'd rather have Fil than Franzen just for that. Fil's goal scoring is there, as evidenced by 2 goals in 2 games once he came back. But he's not consistent. I guess I don't understand how nobody has criticized him (in your eyes) when I know a lot of people who have. But I think he's not the guy that should be under the microscope. There are other guys (namely the 3 you listed, plus a couple Dmen) that should be under more scrutiny. The team instantly looked better with Fil back in the lineup.
As for your question about defense/offense, I'd say the answer is 'yes'. It goes in cycles. There are a lot of games where the offense has been good but defense has fallen asleep, and then also games where defense has kept them in games but offense hasn't showed up. This team is wildly inconsistent.
Here is the long and short of Johan Franzen: When Kenny signed him, he and everyone else had hopes of him being a 40 goal scorer. He has the ability, but not the "drive" so it will never happen.
Here is the long and short of Valterri Filppula: Great skill, great athleticism, and great SECONDARY SCORER. He will never find the consistency needed to be a primary scorer.
When we went to the Finals in 08 and 09 it was Filppula, Hudler, Cleary, Holmstrom, and Sameulsson that made our secondary scoring and they were brilliant. Top scoring roles? Forget it.
And I hear some people argue that we have Franzen at a good price for what he produces. I agree with that.
What makes people crazy is that he is capable of SOOOOOO much more.
Goal Abs! And right away a penalty on Detroit...
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This post was edited by pulling69 12 months ago
Nyquist is starting to look like an NHLer
He is skating hard tonight. Looking really good.
He probably talked to Tatar about what he needs to do to stay up with the big club.
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