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This post was edited by MalibuMan 12 months ago
Third season is going to be so epic. The book was incredible.
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Which just means the feast for crows season is going to be garbage.
Well Season 1 was pretty well matched up with Book 1. Season 2 took some creative liberties and added a little to the book and took some details out. We'll see how Season 3 matches up with Storm of Swords, but I'm guessing it starts to separate itself a little more. With the way Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons are written, I'm not sure how they will choose to recreate that in the shows. Keep the separate timelines or merge them.
Storm of Swords might be my all time favorite book so I am anxiously awaiting this season. Unlike many of the book snobs, I love the TV show just as much. I appreciate the difficulty of putting something like this together and I think HBO has done an unbelievable job.
Storm clearly will be cut into probably a season and a half and my guess is that they could find a way to make Feast and Dance a combined season and a half. There are a lot of backstories, etc and less action in those books that are probably better covered in their blu-ray "histories" section, etc. I think they will cover the next three books in three seasons overall.
Have to merge them. Actor contracts, unions, etc. They can't just cut somebody out for a year.
I'm also curious to see how they handle Feast and Dragons. It will help that they won't be broken up, Feast is decent but lacks many great characters. No Tyrion, Jon, Reek, and Danaeyrs, of course people didn't like it as much.
Are they making two seasons out of book 3?
Feast and Dragons were originally supposed to be told in flashback, but Martin couldn't work it out and just wrote the books. IMHO this is why he struggled so much with them. I can't wait for the next book because he'll be getting back to the main story instead of filler.
I think book three is going to be two separate seasons. There is a part in the middle of book three that will be a perfect cliff hanger for the end of season 3 part 1 and still provide enough action and plot to have another 10 episodes to finish off the book.
Based on the way feast and dance are written, I feel like they would have to merge the two books, otherwise they may lose a large part of the fan base that never read the books. Hopefully with how fast the show is progressing it will put a little presurre on GRRM to complete WOW. The last ting HBO or GRRM wants is to be done filming all the current books and have to postpone production of WOW because he hasnt finished it yet.
I originally heard that Storm of Swords was going to be in 2 seasons. Then feast and dance take place during the same timeframe, so they could easily be intertwined (i was merely making a joke earlier). That would put the season finale of dragons / crows as Summer 2016.
Yeah I don't think season will absolutley merge with the book at this point. We may see some crows in this seaor the next. I understand that they are charecters that are not in Storms and likewise with Crows.
Producers have already said they will merge book 4 and 5 and keep one solid time line. Most likely those books will be three seasons of story.
Any word on Martin? As it stands right now he has like 5 years to finish 2 books before HBO finishes them for him.
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I don't see any way Martin is going to get the books done in time. If anything, he is more distracted with committments now than he has ever been. Wasn't Dance of Dragons supposed to be a year or two after Feast for Crows and it ended up being 5 years?!
I hope they do split Storm of Swords into 2 tv seasons. There is so much material there and the natural cliff hanger/turning point mentioned above is going to be epic!
I re-read it recently and don't think they will need two full seasons. Both the Robb Stark story and the Jaime/Brienne story are into Storm already and they have covered parts of the first 8-9 chapters. I would think they could comfortably get through the first cliff hanger (probably episode 8 or 9 on the season) and probably end the season with the second cliff hanger.
I recently read that Martin is only 200 pages into Winds of Winter. No way he finishes the books before the TV show finishes. That said, he has sat down and described the entire remaining story to David Benioff so my guess is that Benioff is finishing the story for TV.
I've heard he has discussed the overall arc with them too, although I would rather read the book than watch the end of the story.
Why? Why do a lot people hate on this book? I enjoyed that book. Books 2 and 3 are so action packed, it was nice for a little breather. The amount of info and new characters that are introduced are awesome.
What was filler about ADWD?
I know I've been stuck on Feast of Crows for at least two months. I just can't get the motivation to keep reading it.
Maybe I am just soft, but i struggle to care about the Iron Born or anything happening in Dorne. Storm of Swords had so many open plot lines that aren't even being talked about (Littlefinger, Starks, Tyrion, Dany).
Also, Tower of the Hand is an awesome website with an absurd amount of info. I like reading the chapter summaries as I'm reading to make sure I don't miss anything.
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Well, Feast and the first 700 pages of Dragons are supposed to be parallel chronologically. Figure they do the first 1/2 of Feast and 1/3 of Dragons in Season 5, and the 2nd half of Feast and 2/3 of Dragons in 6. Season 7 would be the end of Dragons and most of Book 6, probably with those battle scenes that are set up at the end of Dragons.
I say Season 5, because IIRC, they're splitting Storm of Swords into Season 3 and 4. Too much in 'Swords to fit into 10 episodes, plus it gives Martin an extra year to get Book 6/7 done.
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I like the Theon storyline. Although I am only 2 books in. Alfie did a great job in that role last year.
Just that it was originally going to be told in flashbacks. When he abandoned this he needed to flesh out this story.
mild spoiler alert
A Feast for Crows is the fourth volume of A Song of Ice and Fire, and at the time of publication was the most troubled book in the series to write. George R.R. Martin had planned to have a five-year narrative gap between the events of A Storm of Swords and the following book, A Dance with Dragons, with the readership rejoining the action after the various characters had had a chance to regroup and learn new skills and get a bit older. In the event, this plan proved unworkable, with Martin unable to come up with a reason why the Others would wait five years before making their next move or why events in the Iron Islands or Dorne would not play out for another half-decade. There were also issues about major factions (such as the Faith Militant) appearing out of nowhere. With the writing not cooperating and the book being weighed down by flashbacks, Martin scrapped eighteen months' work on the fourth volume and decided to write A Feast for Crows instead to fill in the gaps in the story.
Listening to Game of Owns the were saying Martin said he was half way done with WOW in a GQ interview.
Great news, I've been wondering how he was coming.
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