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I'm curious to find out how the non-book reading crowd felt about the shadow birthing/queefing scene and the introduction of magical elements into the series.
Gregor and Lancel had been introduced in the first season...
Yea, it's hinted at when Bran is told by Maestar Llewan that magic died when the last dragons did, not knowing that 3 had been born recently.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Looks of stuff that was only referenced or alluded to in the books is taking a more prominent role in the tv show. The smoke monster queefing - WTF?
I was just trying to stick to this season, I didn't do these for season 1. I was just going by who was coming in new this season and hadn't been in previous episodes. Both of them were in Season 1 but very briefly.
I also left out the part about Melisandre getting naked before smoking.
Seems like they are going a bit over the top in terms of the Renly/Loras relationship and trying to make Joffrey seem sadistic. I know they have to play up the drama for TV but it seems like too much sometimes.
Joffrey IS that sadistic.
They're taking some liberties, but nothing over the top (yet).
The Melisandre/shadow birth scene was pretty much like it was described in the books.
They actually have had to tone down how sadistic Joffrey is, IMO.
Thought this was a very good episode and I can't wait to see how the season unfolds. There should be some epic battles in the 2nd half of this season.
Gotta agree with you on these points. Gonna be interesting to see the next conversation with Renly, Brienne, and Cat.
I guess Blackfish wasn't casted and neither were Meera or Jojen. How can HBO tell Bran's story without Meera and Jojen? They are critical in Bran's story.
Also, regarding Blackfish, he seems like a pretty important character to leave out. He's Cat's brother and becomes lord of Riverrun once Hoster dies. He;s in command when the Freys and Lannisters are seiging Riverrun, and has important dialogue with Jaime. He's an important character.
The Blackfish is Cat's Uncle not her brother, but I agree he is a very important character. He is Robb's go to guy as far as military council and a big reason he is doing so well in that area up to this point.
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Yea you are right, been so long since I have read the books. He still an important character in the riverlands.
Considering what happens in the later books, I don't see how they can avoid not including Jojen, Meera or The Blackfish.
All I know is that I am liking the dwarf's character more and more and more, and that dude is doing some serious acting.
And the redhead has great nips.
That's what I am saying,
I was an avid reader of the books and I love what the show is doing. Benioff and Weiss really are smart about the whole thing. The books read very oddly with the changing POV characters so they have to fill in a lot of blanks for the show. They have hired actors making good money so despite the large number of characters, they have to give their main ones their due time (thus extra scenes for Renly, Joffrey, Littlefinger, etc than you get in the books). I give them credit for leaving Jaime out of the last few episodes. I was afraid they'd completely change his story to allow that actor some more parts this season.
I loved the scene with Mellisandre this episode. I though in the first episode this season with the wine cup on Dragonstone wasn't nearly as terrifying as she reads in the book. This one makes her seem badass though.
They have to cast them next season. Seriously, how can they not?
I liked it better that the Renly/Loras stuff was mostly implied in the book. Horrible casting with Loras as well. The dude looks like a whimp. It is hard to believe he is one of the best warriors in the 7 kingdoms.
I do like the approach they took with Maergery being wise to the Renly/Loras situation and trying to play it in her favor.
The scene last night with the Scepter, Joffrey and the two chicks seemed like overkill. The same with the littlefinger stuff. Joffrey is evil. Littlefinger cannot be trusted. We get it.
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Maybe they have a small part this year, or a cameo. I don't see how they can't be in the show, unless they are going to change the storyline Bran has slightly.
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I think they can put Theon's next major move into season 3, and introduce Meera and Jojen at the beginning of that. FWIW, they're splitting Book 3 into Seasons 3 and 4, and they're obviously showing all the stuff with Robb that happens off-screen this year. I think Book 3 is enough for about 18-20 total episodes, so there should be time to fit an episode or two of "new" characters into it.
Also, I think Meera/Jojen are only in Winterfell for a little bit of time before the next major thing happens, so I wouldn't be shocked if they're saved for the end of this season or even delayed to the next one.
The Blackfish is a minor character in terms of face time, though he could be introduced easily.
When I read they were splitting Book 3, it makes complete sense. There is a certain "event" that occurs halfway that will make for a very shocking Season 3 finale for those that haven't read the books.
I re-read Book 3 about a month ago. I really thought that part happened halfway through, but it's in the 700s of a 1100 page book.
I'm back on Book 4 now, after finishing Dance with Dragons. I have a new appreciation for Feast now; much better the 2nd time around.
I'm laboring through Feast for the first time right now. I wonder if the deal that GRRM has with HBO is that whatever book is after Dragons is to be released after season 4. It sounds as if Season 5-6 or 7 will be both Feast and Dragons. I don't know how far along the books move, but if only a couple of years pass from when Ned and Robert die to where they are in the books, the children actors are going to be too old. Has HBO given the green light on season 4 already? I know they picked up 3 half way through the first episode.
Last night was our first look at Roose Bolton, what does everybody think of that casting?
SpartanRocky edit: I had to take out the potential spoiler, sorry Ham.
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