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.38 snubby is not a good starting point for a beginner. Ever shot a j-frame? Not fun at all.
"People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.
If you're going to shoot trap then get a trap gun. Skeet, a skeet gun. sporting clays, a sporting clay gun. If you want an all round gun then look for a good field gun ala a Browning Citori or Beretta Golden Clays etc. Most importantly, get the gun fitted. A trap gun requires a higher comb than other guns to allow the shooter a straight line of site to the clay. Also make sue you have the right chokes for each sport. For trap you want an IM and a Full; for skeet you want a skeet and and an IC and for sporting clays you'll want at a wide selection.
This post was edited by rob 18 months ago
"I think the world is run by C students"
Glocks, these are the firearms cops use to shoot themselves.
Question authority. Power to the people
Everybody has a preference..... try all of the following and get the one you like the most.
Glock 19 or 26, 27
Smith & Wesson M&P Full Size, Compact or Shield
I am partial to 9mm models, just because range ammo is cheap and there are lots of choices in quality self-defense ammo.
It ain't going to help you much if you don't practice with it.......
As others have noted in this thread, a sub-compact/compact handgun is harder to shoot and become proficient with..... I recommend full size handguns for new owners... they are easier to use and learn the fundamentals.
Si vis pacem, para bellum ---
I have the 23 but the .40 caliber ammo costs a fortune. The 9mm is more than enough for self-defense. They're both the same size (compact), I would stay away from the regular sized versions if you want to carry and the subcompact size because it's hard as Hell to shoot accurately. I've shot the subcompact and it feels like it's going to fly out of your grip every time you pull the trigger, not fun unless you have little girly hands.
EDIT: If I were given a do over, I'd get the 19 instead.
This post was edited by ToxSpartan 18 months ago
"We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo
This, trust him on this one unless you're going to carry as a cop or in the active military.
Hey I learned on a .38 snubby! And at least I said .38 and not .357!
Yeah, it's a bit rough on the old palms, but there's a simplicity to revolvers that is comforting to newbies.
Seriously - the first time I ever went to a gun range, semi automatics were like voodoo. But twelve year old me could see a revolver work, and immediately understand the principles behind it.
No jams, just bangs.
I own revolvers, and I own semi-auto pistols, and I carry a semi auto. I think they're a better choice for me, and many others. I just think revolvers get overlooked by those who are looking to get in to the sport.
Thinking about picking this up. Just saw it in person at local gun shop. Pro Combat Pistol!
Looks like a decent 1911. Aren't those made by Taurus?
What are they asking?
Edit: Just noticed the Sig background.
This post was edited by SeeRockCity 18 months ago
Don't post poop!
Sig Sauer. $1100
Pretty steep for that gun I think. You could get a Springfield Range Officer or a used Colt for that kind of money. But they wouldn't have the bad ass custom grips.
If you want to carry, you might wat to take a look at one of these. Size (smaller) makes a difference when carrying.
The Bersa Thunder 380 is almost the perfect concealed carry gun and gets very good reviews. The 380 is a 9mm short and the Bersa (on the left) is modeled after the Walther PPK and comes with a 12 cartridge magazine and costs about $300.00. The Bersa is an Argentinian gun and is the standard service revolver of many SA police agencies. The Berretta is a 9mm and is a very high quality gun,a bit larger and more expensive, about $550.00. My advice is don't waste your money on a laser site, it will likly get you killed in the event you ever have to use the gun to defend yourself.
This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by rob 18 months ago
I have the gun on the right in a subcompact. The pic you posted appears to be the full size. FWIW, I love my Px4 Subcompact. Easy to conceal (although a little wide and bulky, but most people shouldn't have a problem with a good holster), and hasn't jammed since I bought it a year ago.
Steep for a sig? Not really, most sigs go for around $1K easy. MSRP of this one was $1300 I believe, but the shop has it for $1100.
Looks badass and has really good reviews from a lot of people, but awfully pricey.
I'm sure you're right. I was just going off the top of my head based on some research I did a couple months ago. But most of the stuff I was looking at was used. I remembered seeing a lot of Sig 1911 in the $800 - $1000 price range.
Arggg... I was expecting delivery of a Springfield Armory handgun but is no longer available. I've combed the Lansing area guns shops and there is no SA XD or XDM 9mm compact or subcompact to be found. I'm thinking maybe Cabelas by Dundee might have something. I tried to call them to see if they have any but they couldn't tell me over the phone. I don't want to drive 1 1/2 hours to found out they have nothing.
Anyone here been in Cabelas in the last couple days ? Do they have any SA XD/XDM 9mm compacts ?
Anyone within 90 miles of Lansing know of any gunshops with a selection of some SA XD/XDM 9mm compacts ?
I am not in the area anymore and don't remember most of the gun shop names, but try calling Cabelas, along with the large shops in Claire and Fenton. Also, you may just consider working with a local dealer and placing an order.....
I talked to the local dealers about ordering one and they say their distributors/suppliers aren't guaranteeing they'll get anything, it might be 6-9 months and I'd have to put a substantial deposit down.
Also, I called Cabelas and they said they couldn't tell me over the phone what their handgun 'inventory' is because of the volatility of sales.
I'm willing to drive 90 miles to get the handgun I want but I don't want to drive that far to find out they don't have it. I would willingly give them my credit card number over the phone and have them hold it but no one seems to have any.
I looked at an xdm today in grand rapids - new. $630 out the door.
Ended up getting a ruger lcp w/lasermax - great gun to carry
Check out Williams in Fenton. About an hour drive from Lansing, it is about a mile north of 69, so easy to find. They seem to have a large collection, however last time I was there I wasn't looking at Handguns.
Give them a call, they may be more likely to give you information. Also check out the shops in Royal Oak, they have a good selection and if not will order.
Which shop in GR ? and was it a compact ?
Williams is in Davison.
Guns Galore is in Fenton.
Check out Williams.
I was at Cabelas last Sunday and they did not have any XDMs in 9mm. They had a .40, but no 9.
Neither did Gander Mountain in Novi or Shooters Service in Livonia, FWIW.
This post was edited by TravelinMan 18 months ago
Jays in Clare is just about sold out of all their handguns. I'm not even exaggerating. Went there the other day and they have MAYBE 30-40 handguns in the cabinet. Also out of all 9mm ammo.
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