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The shortsightedness gets me. The owners are demanding a much larger slice of what will be a much smaller pie due to issues that they created. You know that they'll complain in another 5 years that revenues aren't high enough for them due to declining attendance and ratings. Well no effing kidding
At least they're frickin' playing.
Thank you, Denicos.
Oh, so this.
It's called getting labor to divide, so you can conquer. Nothing new, you get people to fight amongst themselves instead of being united in the face of the enemy.
yeah because it is really the players fault the team offered them 10-13 year contracts
Bettman & Daly complain that Fehr doesn't tell the players about the offers the NHL is making. Eh, okay.
So what do you fellas tell the owners about the offers made by the NHLPA?
Interesting, isn't it, that for all the bluster from the other side of the negotiating table about Donald Fehr misinforming the players or not giving them a clear picture of the negotiations, the "moderate" owners brought in to bridge the gap with players "had nowhere near a complete understanding of what the proposals were"?
What it speaks to: How protected these owners are from legitimate questions about their motivations, wants and desires in this lockout. Because if questioned, one imagines their solidarity would show more cracks than a sheet of thin ice.
If they talk, fine them hundreds of thousands of dollars. And then, don't tell them anything about the offers being made that could get the game back on the ice NOW. You have your instructions, Gary.
Just makes me wonder -- from whom did you get the instructions?
From the blog Puck Daddy: There are a few NHL players whose images have changed through their roles in the NHLPA collective bargaining talks. Ron Hainsey went from being an overpaid puck-moving defenseman to a negotiating team hatchet man. Kevin Westgarth has gone from a … Continue reading →
I'll bet you 1 zilly dollars that Illitch would LOVE to see the wings on the ice right now.
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From the blog Puck Daddy: Even when the lockout ends, the NHL fan anger will linger on. Well, at least among the fans that care. Hockey fans, apathy be thy name. Many of us will look for an outlet to channel that frustration and, in … Continue reading →
A Grantland piece that somehow manages to canonize Fehr and take repeated potshots at...Mike Ilitch?
Don't blame the NHL lockout mess on Donald Fehr, who has always been a fighter.
The writer is an idiot. The owners have already won because the players have conceded enough that no NHL team will ever lose money again as long as the fans come back this time. The fact that they are not playing hockey right now is because some of the owners of the small market teams are still trying to see if they can get even more and I honestly think they are purposely punishing the players in the process. I think this time around the NHL has hurt itself beyond repair. I might be wrong, but even if they settle the lockout and play hockey the parity that was overboard the last few seasons will spread itself not to just 16 playoff teams but to all 32. Nobody wants to see a bunch of .500 teams play each other for 82 games then do it again in the playoffs so the best of the mediocre hoists the cup.
That's a great article. Understand that Fehr has only one job, to represent the players to get the best deal possible. He did that brilliantly in MLB. He's doing it again now. When you hire an agent, or a lawyer to represent you in anything, you don't go looking for a boy scout. You hire the meanest, toughest SOB you can find, because that's who is likely to be representing the other guy. That's how the world works. That's what the NHLPA did this time, after learning the hard way the last time.
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Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury
The NHL is dead to me. No longer care. May they play every game from now on in Flin Flon.
Sorry but parity is good for a league. Look at the NFL.
The NFL does not have parity, at least not anywhere near the level that the NHL has. Sure, a team can go from bad to good very quickly in the NFL, but that is not parity. In the NFL, if you go 8-8 or 9-7 you will not make the playoffs most years. The really good teams are 14-2 and the really bad teams are 2-14. In the NHL, the best team in the league generally wins a little over 60% of their games and the worst team wins about 30% of their games. Those numbers translated to the NFL would have the best team at around 10-6 and the worst team at around 5-11.
Parity is bad for a league. The illusion of parity is good for a league (the NFL has only the illusion of parity. every once in a while a non-power wins, but otherwise it's consistently the same teams winning the championships).
+1. I think the best comparison for the NHL is the MLB where you have huge spending teams like the Yankees who should win it all every year on paper. All season long teams are gunning for them and fans are excited to see them come to town. There are low spending teams that come up and win it all, but the high spending teams get butts in the seats and generate fan interest.
No the NFL does not have parity. The NFL has had 3 teams win multiple Super Bowls over the past decade. In the past 10 Super Bowls out of a possible 20 participants; the Pats, Colts, Steelers, and Giants have appeared a combined total of 11 times. The other 28 teams have made 9 appearances. The NHL has had just one team win multiple Stanley Cups in the past 10 seasons (Detroit). In the NHL 5 teams have made multiple appearances in the past 10 Stanley Cup Finals (only one has made it 3 times). The NFL has less parity than the NHL and it makes sense. The NFL limits the playoffs to 37.5 percent of its teams. The NHL lets more than half of its teams make the playoffs.
The New York Giants taking down the 18-0 Patriots is the best thing that ever happened for fan perception of the NFL. The Patriots looked unbeatable, while the Giants, who had amassed the talent to be a consistent winner had failed. Then the Superbowl happened and all anyone could think about was, "man, this league sure is equal."
Brett Kissel - Hockey, Please Come Back (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
Music and Lyrics by Brett Kissel
twitter: @brettkissel // #hockeypleasecomeback
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Rising country music star and avid hockey fan, Brett Kissel, has released the music video to his clever tongue in cheek song "Hockey, Please Come Back." The emotional plea for the return of NHL hockey (which has been locked out for over ten weeks resulting in the cancellation of more than 400 games) has been listened to well over 10,000 times on YouTube and SoundCloud. In partnership with Edmonton video company, Back Road Productions, Kissel shot a video for the song, which can now be viewed on YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjQLCuM8i-g.
Kissel has been featured in the National Post and on the front page of the Edmonton Journal, as well as popular hockey blog, "Puck Daddy." This week, Brett will appear with hockey legend, Kelly Hrudey on his Hockey Night In Canada XM Satellite radio show.
Kissel jokes and says, "I'm just going along for the ride. What else is there to do? There's no hockey!"
"For the past two months I've been complaining about the NHL lockout," commented Kissel. "My wife recommended I write a song about it to get it out of my system. So I did."
Kissel began to casually play the song for friends and fans who urged Brett to record and release the song on behalf of all hockey fans.
"I was in the midst of recording my new album and really didn't have the time. But one day the studio became available, and voila, it came together," says Kissel. "I didn't have big plans for the song, other than making people laugh and possibly hastening the end of the hockey strike," he laughs.
The song will soon be available on iTunes and all digital outlets.
Please come back so this song will go away!
It's time for legal maneuvering.
from Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun,
- Never thought I’d write this in mine or anyone else’s lifetime, but here it goes: Bud Selig is the No. 1 commissioner in professional sports. And with the decline of the retiring David Stern and the embarrassment Roger Goodell is becoming, it’s not even close. And we know who’s No. 4 on the list, and it ain’t Bobby Orr.
NHL players to decide if board can file disclaimer NHL players to vote on whether to dissolve union
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