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Dawson Adds Spartans To The Mix

  • Skip1856 said...

    True, their fanbase has reacted just as you have said. Even saw a tweet my brother sent from one of their writers saying "former commit David Dawson named Ohio St, and now MSU, to his top group. Can't wait for him to add ND & Arizona" They try and play it off like their not bitter but that's a bitter tweet. That being said, we can't throw stones while living in a glass house. We acted, me included, like total assholes over the Caleb Benenoch de-commit earlier in the year and he was decent about it and did it early.

    I'm not as mad that he's gone as much as that he really screwed us over because we turned away many other top OL who were really interested in us like Pocic, Rodgers, Biven, etc. I think the more proper analogy would be that you have an opportunity to date many girls in your high school, decide to commit to one, who then dumps you and all the other girls are now taken so you have to go way down your board if you want another girlfriend

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  • article says Nebraska game, not Wisconsin.

    Kon

  • This would be a huge Coupe for us, hope we are on him and offer ASAP.

    Johnny2x2x

  • Hank Moody said...

    Dawson and Gibbs.

    Numbers at positions of need.

    Make it happen, please.

    Not to mention continuing to open the Cass Tech floodgates!

    Spartan313

  • Johnny2x2x said...

    That's just scUMs way of dealing with getting ditched by a recruit, a way of saving face. Dawson decommitted and scheduled a trip to Florida knowing that when he did so Michigan would pull his offer. It was Dawson who said, "We are parting ways." Now after his visit, Michigan officially pulls his offer so Michigan fans can say they ditched Dawson rather than the other way around. Now in typical scUM fan idiocy, they are ripping on Dawson and sayng he wasn't good enough to play at Michigan anyway, and I literally even read that he's "nowhere near 6-4, he's 6-1".

    Michigan's policy is the equivalent of getting dumped by your girlfriend and then running around school telling everyone you dumped her 1st.

    Dawson must have wised up to the snake oil Hoke and company are selling and decided it wasn;t for him. He's a very good 4 star recruit and I'd love him to come here to play next to his teammate Finley. Dawson and Finley are 2 great O line recruits, hope Dawson goes Green. Would be a great pickup.

    I'm sorry, but that's just not true.

    The Michigan coaches called Dawson and told him he was no longer a Michigan recruit. That's a fact. He didn't decommit on his own volition, and some reports have said he tried to apologize and recommit, but the Michigan coaches had had enough. This happened before he visited anywhere.

    On the other hand, he had been flirting with Florida behind Michigan's back for a long time, including scheduling visits to Florida and then no-showing. The Florida coaching staff was getting tired of his games as well, but they played it smart and ratted him out to Michigan, hoping we'd drop him right in their lap -- which we did. And they couldn't close the deal.

    See, I'm not sure he really had his heart set on Florida in the first place. I think he's just one of those kids that really likes the attention. I also think the fact that he didn't commit to Florida already really bodes well for MSU. If the kid didn't really want to go Florida in the first place, and the ship has already sailed at Michigan, then MSU just makes a ton of sense.

    nofatchix

  • nofatchix said...

    I'm sorry, but that's just not true.

    The Michigan coaches called Dawson and told him he was no longer a Michigan recruit. That's a fact. He didn't decommit on his own volition, and some reports have said he tried to apologize and recommit, but the Michigan coaches had had enough. This happened before he visited anywhere.

    On the other hand, he had been flirting with Florida behind Michigan's back for a long time, including scheduling visits to Florida and then no-showing. The Florida coaching staff was getting tired of his games as well, but they played it smart and ratted him out to Michigan, hoping we'd drop him right in their lap -- which we did. And they couldn't close the deal.

    See, I'm not sure he really had his heart set on Florida in the first place. I think he's just one of those kids that really likes the attention. I also think the fact that he didn't commit to Florida already really bodes well for MSU. If the kid didn't really want to go Florida in the first place, and the ship has already sailed at Michigan, then MSU just makes a ton of sense.

    And you know the coaches well enough to know this? shrug

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  • Lets not speculate nofatchix

    greekman

  • nofatchix said...

    I'm sorry, but that's just not true.

    The Michigan coaches called Dawson and told him he was no longer a Michigan recruit. That's a fact. He didn't decommit on his own volition, and some reports have said he tried to apologize and recommit, but the Michigan coaches had had enough. This happened before he visited anywhere.

    On the other hand, he had been flirting with Florida behind Michigan's back for a long time, including scheduling visits to Florida and then no-showing. The Florida coaching staff was getting tired of his games as well, but they played it smart and ratted him out to Michigan, hoping we'd drop him right in their lap -- which we did. And they couldn't close the deal.

    See, I'm not sure he really had his heart set on Florida in the first place. I think he's just one of those kids that really likes the attention. I also think the fact that he didn't commit to Florida already really bodes well for MSU. If the kid didn't really want to go Florida in the first place, and the ship has already sailed at Michigan, then MSU just makes a ton of sense.

    lol looks like you just cut and pasted the plot synopsis of a saved by the bell episode.

    jbspartan4life

  • Wendel Clark said...

    I'm not as mad that he's gone as much as that he really screwed us over because we turned away many other top OL who were really interested in us like Pocic, Rodgers, Biven, etc. I think the more proper analogy would be that you have an opportunity to date many girls in your high school, decide to commit to one, who then dumps you and all the other girls are now taken so you have to go way down your board if you want another girlfriend

    That's what happens when you finish your recruiting class by Easter.

    dagomike

  • nofatchix said...

    I'm sorry, but that's just not true.

    The Michigan coaches called Dawson and told him he was no longer a Michigan recruit. That's a fact. He didn't decommit on his own volition, and some reports have said he tried to apologize and recommit, but the Michigan coaches had had enough. This happened before he visited anywhere.

    On the other hand, he had been flirting with Florida behind Michigan's back for a long time, including scheduling visits to Florida and then no-showing. The Florida coaching staff was getting tired of his games as well, but they played it smart and ratted him out to Michigan, hoping we'd drop him right in their lap -- which we did. And they couldn't close the deal.

    See, I'm not sure he really had his heart set on Florida in the first place. I think he's just one of those kids that really likes the attention. I also think the fact that he didn't commit to Florida already really bodes well for MSU. If the kid didn't really want to go Florida in the first place, and the ship has already sailed at Michigan, then MSU just makes a ton of sense.

    LOL, he asked if he couldd visit Florida, they said if he did they'd have to pull his scholarship, he said, "see ya later then" If Dawson wanted to go to Michigan he would be going to Michigan, period, he tweetedthis before he visited Florida and before they "pulled" his scholarship on October 14th, “Would like to wish the University of Michigan the best of luck…nothing against anybody associated with that program.” Before he visited Florida.

    Deal with it Michigan fans, it happens to every program, guys decide they want to go elsewhere. Dawson wasn't buying the load of crap Hoke is selling and wanted to explore his options. This BS policy of not letting a recruit take his official visits will eventually hurt Michigan. It's not what is best for the kids, it's solely what's best for Michigan Football. You know not every kid is a good fit for every program and not every program is right for every kid. It's pretty low to not let a kid try to make the most informed decision for his future so you can lock him up early.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Johnny2x2x on 10/22/2012 at 2:12 PM

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  • Johnny2x2x said...

    LOL, he asked if he couldd visit Florida, they said if he did they'd have to pull his scholarship, he said, "see ya later then" If Dawson wanted to go to Michigan he would be going to Michigan, period, he tweetedthis before he visited Florida and before they "pulled" his scholarship on October 14th, “Would like to wish the University of Michigan the best of luck…nothing against anybody associated with that program.” Before he visited Florida.

    Deal with it Michigan fans, it happens to every program, guys decide they want to go elsewhere. Dawson wasn't buying the load of crap Hoke is selling and wanted to explore his options. This BS policy of not letting a recruit take his official visits will eventually hurt Michigan. It's not what is best for the kids, it's solely what's best for Michigan Football. You know not every kid is a good fit for every program and not every program is right for every kid. It's pretty low to not let a kid try to make the most informed decision for his future so you can lock him up early.

    He planned on visiting Florida back in the summer, but the coaches talked to him and told him that if he did visit then his scholly would be pulled. Soon after Dawson cancelled his Florida visit.

    Fast forward to now, according to Florida's site Dawson has set up a couple visits throughout the past couple months to go down there, but he "no showed" for all of them. The Florida staff got a hold of Michigan's staff to tell them what has been ongoing and right after that Hoke pulled his offer.

    I wish Dawson well, but he doesn't know the meaning of the word commitment.

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  • Johnny2x2x said...

    LOL, he asked if he couldd visit Florida, they said if he did they'd have to pull his scholarship, he said, "see ya later then" If Dawson wanted to go to Michigan he would be going to Michigan, period, he tweetedthis before he visited Florida and before they "pulled" his scholarship on October 14th, “Would like to wish the University of Michigan the best of luck…nothing against anybody associated with that program.” Before he visited Florida.

    Deal with it Michigan fans, it happens to every program, guys decide they want to go elsewhere. Dawson wasn't buying the load of crap Hoke is selling and wanted to explore his options. This BS policy of not letting a recruit take his official visits will eventually hurt Michigan. It's not what is best for the kids, it's solely what's best for Michigan Football. You know not every kid is a good fit for every program and not every program is right for every kid. It's pretty low to not let a kid try to make the most informed decision for his future so you can lock him up early.

    False.

    Despite what you'd like to believe, that's just not the way it happened.

    Michigan cut ties with him. Plain and simple. Who knows, he may have eventually decommitted on his own anyway, but he never got that opportunity.

    I don't disagree, however, that the no visit rule is dumb, and will hurt Michigan (they are going to lose Gareon Conley because of it too) a number of times. I'd be surprised if they didn't rethink that policy.

    nofatchix

  • Dawsons talking to Damion Terry on twitter about MSU! I like that guy.

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  • I like the potential that he may indeed visit but I am not going to get too excited about this situation. He was never interested in MSU before and I am not certain that he is at this time. Perhaps he visits and truly enjoys it and understands the potential here for early PT. But that same pitch has been present to other OLine recruits and it has not carried too much weight yet. The fact is, the staff should go all out for any high quality Oline recruit right now whether this class or next years.

    atlsprtn

  • SpartaCountry said...

    Dawsons talking to Damion Terry on twitter about MSU! I like that guy.

    He is really pushing him. Terry is going to be a great spartan.

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  • If I remember correctly he was scheduled to visit the week after he committed to UM and obviously never made the trip. If he would have visited he would have been offered. Does anyone know for sure if that is correct?

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  • Johnny2x2x said...

    This BS policy of not letting a recruit take his official visits will eventually hurt Michigan. It's not what is best for the kids, it's solely what's best for Michigan Football. You know not every kid is a good fit for every program and not every program is right for every kid. It's pretty low to not let a kid try to make the most informed decision for his future so you can lock him up early.

    Didn't we have a similar policy at one point? I remember we pulled the scholly of an RB who eventually signed with Iowa a few years ago under similar circumstances. Or do we not do that anymore?

    Spartan313

  • Possibly Onaje Miller. Who was later caught in a car with some other trouble makers and a handgun. I think it was about him getting trouble though and not taking visits.

    Skip1856

  • Skip1856 said...

    Possibly Onaje Miller. Who was later caught in a car with some other trouble makers and a handgun. I think it was about him getting trouble though and not taking visits.

    It wasnt Miller, it was McCall.

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  • Joester16 said...

    He planned on visiting Florida back in the summer, but the coaches talked to him and told him that if he did visit then his scholly would be pulled. Soon after Dawson cancelled his Florida visit.

    Fast forward to now, according to Florida's site Dawson has set up a couple visits throughout the past couple months to go down there, but he "no showed" for all of them. The Florida staff got a hold of Michigan's staff to tell them what has been ongoing and right after that Hoke pulled his offer.

    I wish Dawson well, but he doesn't know the meaning of the word commitment.

    I guess UM wouldn't know either since they dropped him without him actually decommitting? lol

    This post was edited by MindlessChaos on 10/22/2012 at 4:43 PM

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  • Per Jon Reschke on Twitter: @J_Reschke33: #SpartanNation follow David Dawson!!! He tells me Michigan State is his number one right now!!! @D3_FutureLegend

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  • Jet Rodriguez said...

    Per Jon Reschke on Twitter: @J_Reschke33: #SpartanNation follow David Dawson!!! He tells me Michigan State is his number one right now!!! @D3_FutureLegend

    Scratch that. Dawson just posted that Reschke misunderstood. Good to see the future guys are working on him though.

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  • nofatchix said...

    Michigan cut ties with him. Plain and simple. Who knows, he may have eventually decommitted on his own anyway, but he never got that opportunity.

    I don't disagree, however, that the no visit rule is dumb, and will hurt Michigan (they are going to lose Gareon Conley because of it too) a number of times. I'd be surprised if they didn't rethink that policy.

    I wonder if the no visit rule is as cast in stone as the no felon rule?

    Tree Rat

  • victory4msu25 said...

    It wasnt Miller, it was McCall.

    Mickael mcCall yes, how could I forget. I liked that kid, but I liked miller too. Someone quick get over to the McDowell article from today, the douchebaggery is getting thick.

    Skip1856

  • Ludicrous Speed said...

    He is really pushing him. Terry is going to be a great spartan recruiter.

    Enhanced.

    After all, it's his own neck that he's protecting.

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