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Delvon Roe as Trayvon Martin

  • unibrow said...

    Name calling = Clear sign when someone simply has no argument.

    Should I include you in that as well? Are you mad that people have a opinion different than yours?

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  • StylesGShmooth said...

    Yup, those are the 2 options. As the only devout racist on this board you sure do love slinging that label at a lot of other people. But let me just follow your logic. A black guys says " I don't know if you're guilty or innocent" and you label him racist and jumping to judgement. I point that he didn't even make a judgement and now I'm racist too? Got it.

    Ignorance is bliss...

    Eds Medicine246

  • Ed's Medicine said...

    Yeah, your opinion isn't racially motivated...

    Please. Youre the only one here throwing racial bias around.

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  • And here is my opinion....Sanford PD botched the investigation, that is a given. I think this is where the outrage lief. IF the PD did their due process, then came to the conclusion that there was self defense, then I think the outrage would have been not as huge.

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  • Ed's Medicine said...

    Ignorance is bliss...

    Ok, just say it. Anyone who disagrees with your opinion has to have racial motivation behind it.

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  • WhiteBoyHatcher said...

    Ha. I thought about twittering him and at least mentioning the apostrophe but couldn't come up with a way to do it without sounding like a dick.

    "Hey, Delvon, an apostrophe doesn't mean 'oh shit, here comes an S!'"

    Claretts Folly8

  • tJYD said...

    And here is my opinion....Sanford PD botched the investigation, that is a given. I think this is where the outrage lief. IF the PD did their due process, then came to the conclusion that there was self defense, then I think the outrage would have been not as huge.

    Winner winner chicken dinner. If not for the media storm, the case was closed. That was the outrage.

    Btw, I think he gets off anyway. With the Stand Your Ground law in place and Zimmerman there to testify and Martin not, don't think they'll be able to build a case, even with that voice analysis. At least it's being properly investigated now though.

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    StylesGShmooth

  • StylesGShmooth said...

    Winner winner chicken dinner. If not for the media storm, the case was closed. That was the outrage.

    Btw, I think he gets off anyway. With the Stand Your Ground law in place and Zimmerman there to testify and Martin not, don't think they'll be able to build a case, even with that voice analysis. At least it's being properly investigated now though.

    IMO, they would been able to get a manslaughter conviction EASY. I think they went too far with 2nd degree murder.

    This post was edited by tJYD on 4/15/2012 at 2:12 PM

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  • StylesGShmooth said...

    Winner winner chicken dinner. If not for the media storm, the case was closed. That was the outrage.

    Btw, I think he gets off anyway. With the Stand Your Ground law in place and Zimmerman there to testify and Martin not, don't think they'll be able to build a case, even with that voice analysis. At least it's being properly investigated now though.

    It doesn't matter what happens in court. If Zimmerman came out and said "I shot him because he is black" people like Ed would still claim the media was trying to make it a racial thing and how Zimmerman could never get a fair trial.

    Io Triumphe

  • tJYD said...

    Ok, just say it. Anyone who disagrees with your opinion has to have racial motivation behind it.

    You clearly never check out what goes on in wells. That's the main talking point for the liberals over there.

    Duke Silver

  • Duke Silver said...

    You clearly never check out what goes on in wells. That's the main talking point for the liberals over there.

    I generally stay away from Wells because of that.

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  • Ed's Medicine said...

    Imagine if every confrontation you have throughout the week you weren't able to defend yourself, and if you do you're immediately called a racist for doing so...

    Imagine if he had played by the rules...then he wouldn't have had to "defend" himself. Zimmerman didn't play by the rules, and a person is dead because of it.

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  • Dr Leo Spaceman said...

    Yeah because shooting somebody half your age and half your size when they come at you with a bag of skittles is exactly what they were thinking when they wrote the constitution.

    I believe Martin in 6' 0" and Zimmerman is 5' 9". What happened was the media started putting up a picture of Martin when he was 12 years old and that helped fuel the outrage over this incident. It appears both individuals were suspicious of each other and somehow it escalated into the tragic death of an unarmed teenager walking home. We should let it play out in the court of law because we don't know all the facts.

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  • Born2Kill said...

    I don't want to get too political, but its interesting to think if the very first headline would have been that a Hispanic man rather than a white man was the shooter

    I find it curious that so many people find this distinction so riveting. You do realize, don't you, that a lot of Hispanics identify as white. Otherwise, why would there be a "Non-Hispanic White" option on the census and other forms?

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  • GreenMeany said...

    I find it curious that so many people find this distinction so riveting. You do realize, don't you, that a lot of Hispanics identify as white. Otherwise, why would there be a "Non-Hispanic White" option on the census and other forms?

    Um. No.

    Hispanic is not considered a race by most (government) definitions. It is an ethnicity. I have no effing clue as to the "whys", but you have race and ethnicity. The question that you quote is for ethnicity.

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  • vitocorleone said...

    Ummmm....everything he said there is fact.

    "an adult killed an unarmed child"

    1. Trayvon Martin was a teenager 2.George Zimmerman shot and killed him 3. Trayvon Martin was not armed.

    What circumstances brought all of this about, we don't know...but we do know the 3 things above are FACTS. They are not in dispute.

    Not according to his mom, she referred to it as an "accident". Maybe that is really what happened, and Zimmerman is only saying he shot him in self-defense because he knew he could apply the SYG laws and have an easier chance at avoiding an indictment by claiming that as opposed to an involuntary manslaughter charge he'd have received otherwise. If that was the case would you fault him for making up a story that showed him in worse light but would give him an easier chance to get off? Who knows, the only thing I know about this case is that anything is possible given all the misinformation being put out there

    This post was edited by fallenangle on 4/15/2012 at 4:45 PM

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  • GreenMeany said...

    I find it curious that so many people find this distinction so riveting. You do realize, don't you, that a lot of Hispanics identify as white. Otherwise, why would there be a "Non-Hispanic White" option on the census and other forms?

    The census form is the only one that uses that definition to my understanding, and only do it for record-keeping purposes, that's to say it's not what is considered its usage in common, everyday practice. On his voter registration it asked for "race" and he replied Hispanic ( so Zimmerman himself describes his own race as Hispanic, and who is anybody else to argue otherwise), so that's one form that proves the opposite of what you are saying.

    This post was edited by fallenangle on 4/15/2012 at 4:44 PM

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  • tJYD said...

    He, just like everyone else on Earth, is entitled to their own opinion and own free will as long as it does not cause any physical or mental harm to him or anyone else. If you don't like it, too bad.

    Shocking another African american is blindly following a rush to judgement because of his own racist hate toward white America. It's ok when a gang of thugs beat up a helpless white guy and rob him like in that video a few weeks ago. Here is my prediction. Zimmerman is going to get acquitted. Riots will ensue.

    I thought it was interesting martins mom said on tv she thought the death was an accident. Why Would she say that? For $$. She needs a negligence claim so she can sue the homeowners association. If there is an intent to murder that might void insurance coverage.

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    Tanfan

  • Tanfan said...

    Shocking another African american is blindly following a rush to judgement because of his own racist hate toward white America. It's ok when a gang of thugs beat up a helpless white guy and rob him like in that video a few weeks ago. Here is my prediction. Zimmerman is going to get acquitted. Riots will ensue.

    I thought it was interesting martins mom said on tv she thought the death was an accident. Why Would she say that? For $$. She needs a negligence claim so she can sue the homeowners association. If there is an intent to murder that might void insurance coverage.

    Tanfan, shove it.

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  • tJYD said...

    Tanfan, shove it.

    nah. I think you are a racist.

    Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.

    Tanfan

  • Tanfan said...

    nah. I think you are a racist.

    fishing

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  • Listen to Bill.

    The Associated Press: Cosby: Trayvon Martin case about guns, not race

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5htrJH3TfZyZ6I4LHMoTDU3uslpNw?docId=bc30ae9b234e436f95a65548b0bfab6d

    www.google.com
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  • Io Triumphe said...

    It doesn't matter what happens in court. If Zimmerman came out and said "I shot him because he is black" people like Ed would still claim the media was trying to make it a racial thing and how Zimmerman could never get a fair trial.

    Honestly I don't think he shot him because he was black. I think he followed him because he was black and because he's a vigilante wannabe-cop with issues and he created a situation he wasn't ready for and paniced and now a kid walking home is dead. I aslo think if the Sanford PD had launched a real investigation right away this wouldn't even have been an issue. I, also, can't for the life of me figure out why this thing is somehow political (right vs left) or why you have to be racist to fall on one side or the other. Either you think Zimmerman fucked up or you don't, I personally think he did. Which I guess makes me a racist lefty.

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    StylesGShmooth

  • Edit: double post. Cell phone issues

    This post was edited by StylesGShmooth on 4/15/2012 at 5:42 PM

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    StylesGShmooth

  • StylesGShmooth said...

    Honestly I don't think he shot him because he was black. I think he followed him because he was black and because he's a vigilante wannabe-cop with issues and he created a situation he wasn't ready for and paniced and now a kid walking home is dead. I aslo think if the Sanford PD had launched a real investigation right away this wouldn't even have been an issue. I, also, can't for the life of me figure out why this thing is somehow political (right vs left) or why you have to be racist to fall on one side or the other. Either you think Zimmerman fucked up or you don't, I personally think he did. Which I guess makes me a racist lefty.

    I agree with you. I don't think Zimmerman fired the gun over the color of Trayvon's skin. My point was in the context that people like Ed, and many others, have developed this "we don't know what happened and due to the media's coverage we are going to take the view that this was not racially motivated in any way and Trayvon was the aggressor." By doing this they get to completely ignore the racial problems we do have in this country, of which there are many, and ignore the problems we have with fire arms. I think that's where politics come in.

    I don't think you can blame the media because this story has struck a cord with people. The media, in today's world, have to sell themselves and reporting on stories that obtain viewers is the only way to do so. The Martin Tragedy, and no matter the side you are on it is a tragedy anytime a person is killed, appeals to many many people.

    Io Triumphe