MSU Red Cedar Message Board

You are a Moron.. Please don't ever post again. we need to improve our lines. I think Ken Holland needs to get better players and get rid of Bertuzzi and Homer. This team is kinda old, we need to get more players like Helm/ younger players.

The Wings have had great goaltending and lead the league in shots on goal. They are having issues getting guys in front of the net.

It's so early in the season that it's not time to panic, but it is time to becoming increasingly concerned as losses pile up. What likely will happen is that the Wings will end their drought and go on another tear. Right now the team just needs to play well enough to get to the trade deadline where Holland will go shopping and inject some life into the team. The only way Holland seriously considers getting rid of Babcock is if it looks like the team is in a realistic spot to miss the playoffs by the All-Star break.

Yeah, that's brilliant!

Poor goal production? Sounds like it's way past time for the Wings to fire their OC and get a new one. If they hire Roushar away from MD, that provides TWO tRCMB solutions to fix the complaints from the high IQ's displayed here.

I dont remember the last time the Wings played this bad AND had bad luck at the same time. The puck isnt bouncing their way, all of their shots are getting blocked, they have run into some pretty damn good goaltending, hell ever the refs are getting in our way.

I know Babcock is a good coach and they shouldnt even consider firing him. My only concern about him is that there are several players that do not see eye to eye with him. Not eye to eye like they did with Bowman but there are players who dont want to play for him and wont come here.

Did you really mean to say that?

Holland brought a bunch of guys back who don't score. Bertuzzi shows flashes then vanishes for long periods, Hudler has done nothing since leaving for Russia, Cleary is a reclamation project that seems to have panned out, then doesn't seem to. Holmstrom's been a place holder for years. You could blame it on Babcock, but he has to play the players he has.

not really, we usually end slow.

Usually, for the regular season, the Wings pick between December, January, and February and just about win all of their games in two of the three.

THIS IS NOT HOLDING (from last nights debacle)

Just give em some time, we are the Detroit Red Wings after all...

The Wings replaced both assistant coaches and lost two veteran leaders in Draper and Osgood. That's a lot of turnover. You have Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and Kronwall as the Captain and Alternates. Those guys are great, but I don't see them as fiery leaders in the dressing room who are going to really bring the intensity like Draper. Osgood also helped keep the locker room loose with his demeanor. I don't know who can step up and really take charge of the team from a player's perspective.

As far as Babcock. Some guys don't like him. That's a fact. Shanahan and Yzerman were rumored to have serious problems with him back in 2005-06. There have been rumors of tension for years. I do think the guys respect him and don't think they've tuned him out, but I do think there are probably growing pains with Blashill and Peters.

The Wings offensive system is sound. They are possessing the puck and generating a ton of shots on goal, but just aren't playing with that extra edge and the pucks aren't going in. Jimmy Howard is playing really well. Once some more chances start going in and the Wings clean up some of their defensive responsibilities, they could go on quite a streak. Especially if Hudler, Franzen, Filppula, Bertuzzi, and Cleary start to provide some scoring.