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TerryLove said...
I think the real question is: Does Mike Illitch pull the plug on Ken Holland sooner or later?
Obviously I know that is not happening, but at what point does yearly complacency at trade deadlines/UFA period become an issue to the rest of the franchise? Babcock has explicitly stated that he does not have certain types of players he would like to have, but nothing is ever done to appease him.
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TerryLove said...
I think the real question is: Does Mike Illitch pull the plug on Ken Holland sooner or later?
Obviously I know that is not happening, but at what point does yearly complacency at trade deadlines/UFA period become an issue to the rest of the franchise? Babcock has explicitly stated that he does not have certain types of players he would like to have, but nothing is ever done to appease him.
This post was edited by GRR Spartan on 4/18/2012 at 12:50 PM
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TerryLove said...
I think the real question is: Does Mike Illitch pull the plug on Ken Holland sooner or later?
Obviously I know that is not happening, but at what point does yearly complacency at trade deadlines/UFA period become an issue to the rest of the franchise? Babcock has explicitly stated that he does not have certain types of players he would like to have, but nothing is ever done to appease him.
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Dr. Draymond said...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first time in years that the Wings have had actual cap space? Not sure that constitutes any kind of pattern.
Who did you want at the deadline? Prices were high for "role" players such as Gaustad and Hall Gill (nice pieces, but I don't think they're worth the combination of current players and draft picks that they would've taken).
I think this off-season will be telling. If Holland goes out and grabs Parise and Suter, it would be a significant reload. I trust him to get the job done. If we make it to next year and nothing is different except the Wings are one year older, then maybe we can talk about what to do with one of the best GMs in the NHL.
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TerryLove said...
Gaustad is actually the perfect example. I think his play in this series is clearly indicative of why he would have been a good acquisition considering he's on an expiring contract and is obviously a huge upgrade over Emmerton at the 4th center spot. Not to mention physicality, face-off ability, and size... all of which are lacking on the Wings.
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I don't believe Gaustad was worth the first round draft pick that Nashville gave up to get him though. He'll be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season. A first round pick for a 3-month rental is steep.
Of course, the Wings traded away a first round pick for Quincey. Guess Holland thought at the time that a top-6 defensemen was more important than a rental 3rd or 4th line center. Looks like Quincey will be a restricted free agent at the end of this season.
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Dr. Draymond said...
I don't believe Gaustad was worth the first round draft pick that Nashville gave up to get him though. He'll be an unrestricted free agent at the end of this season. A first round pick for a 3-month rental is steep.
Of course, the Wings traded away a first round pick for Quincey. Guess Holland thought at the time that a top-6 defensemen was more important than a rental 3rd or 4th line center. Looks like Quincey will be a restricted free agent at the end of this season.
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beal99 said...
With Lidstrom and Stuart most likely gone, we need all the defense we can get, even if its kyle quincey
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Quincey has been above average! Q has made a lot of plays and is physical. Ericsson too is playing better than last year. Keep Q & replace Stuart and Lidsrrom w Suter and B Smth.
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Madison Spartan said...
Umm. Pekka Rinne is really, really good. The Wings have a solid team, but they've had the misfortune of running into the best goaltender in the world.
In the Wings' losses, Rinne stopped 35 shots on goal, 41 shots on goal, and 40 shots on goal. The guy is playing out of his mind.
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beal99 said...
no, not really, not at all.
We're outhitting NSH, our average age isnt much more than NSH, and too slow? Only because of injury, but moreso that NSH (like PHX) plays this redic slow down game, trapping and shit.
The fact of the matter is this. We're a good banged up team playing a good non banged up team and thats the edge.
This post was edited by Big Fella on 4/18/2012 at 3:44 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the first time in years that the Wings have had actual cap space? Not sure that constitutes any kind of pattern.
Who did you want at the deadline? Prices were high for "role" players such as Gaustad and Hall Gill (nice pieces, but I don't think they're worth the combination of current players and draft picks that they would've taken).
I think this off-season will be telling. If Holland goes out and grabs Parise and Suter, it would be a significant reload. I trust him to get the job done. If we make it to next year and nothing is different except the Wings are one year older, then maybe we can talk about what to do with one of the best GMs in the NHL.
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spartanfan25 said...
not true. the wings defensive zone play was abysmal and that's what cost them this series. sure we had plenty of shots but many of them were from terrible angles and with no screens. NSH executed their game plan to perfection keeping us to the outside and clearing the front of the net so shots were bad angle with no screen, any goaltender will stop those. we looked absolutely lost a majority of the time in our own end and NSH scored a lot of their goals off that. flat out the predators were faster, stronger, younger, and a better team. They looked like they wanted to win more than the wings did
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