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  • The woman in charge of one of the programs at the local elementary school recently got her PhD in Education. She insisted that all the parents call her "Doctor." This irritated the hell out of me for many reasons. On top of it, she was a terrible instructor. We changed schools.

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  • Spartan_MD said...

    Sorry to disagree, but if you earned a doctorate, whether that be in chiropractic, vet, optometry, PhD, DDS, MD or DO you should be referred to as "Doctor".

    I'm a physician. If I introduce myself, I give my first and last name without "doctor" If I am introduced as "Doctor", I usually say for the individual to call me by my first name.

    But if I'm calling a restaurant, hotel or a place of service I refer to myself as "Doctor". "Mr." is my brother the attorney or the artist.

    Many times people if they don't remember my name, they can just refer to me as "Doc".

    If you have the degree, I will refer to you as by default as "Doctor" unless you prefer otherwise. I expect the same level of respect.

    This is a tough one for me...i disagree with chiro and optometry. Curious to hear your opinon of a Psy.D? My wife (MD) and I (JD) had a pretty good argument on this one...I said no.

    And in the hall of fame of douche moves, my dad (PhD and MD) corrected one of my friends in high school who called him Mr. Richardhead......."That's Dr. Richardhead"....I know he earned it, but can't imagine I would ever correct a kid who was being respectful in the first place just to stroke my own ego.

    Richard Head

  • catmsu said...

    honestly, i've never referred to myself as Dr. catmsu

    Makes sense, because that's your tRCMB handle. Can you imagine if I went around as Dr. RubberbandMan?

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  • Rich Gozinya said...

    People with a Ph. D. basically have to do this. They have proven that they're unemployable in any other area, so they had to keep going to school for degrees.

    Without the letters after their name, they would truly have nothing to offer society.

    Ignorant people who proudly proclaim said ignorance are truly amazing to me.

    ancientspartan

  • I have PhD and I was under the impression it's not a social title. So in the field I work in, yeah people could say Dr., but nearly everyone has one and no one is that insecure. Outside of the field, for instance on a wedding invitation, [my view is] it falls back to the social title (no Dr., use Mr./Ms.). My aunt-in-law has a PhD in communications or something feels strongly about being addressed as Dr. in mail/writing. We just do it -- it's in poorer form to go against her wishes.

    spartanwitz

  • Spartan_MD said...

    Not because of his career choice :)

    I see your point, but the other named Drs are all at least four year degrees...

    Sorry, but respect shouldn't be based on # of years in school.

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  • Yes.

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  • Rich Gozinya said...

    I agree with this. Chiropractors do a very valuable service, but they're not that much more skilled than massage therapists.

    Chiropractors have just as much schooling as any other doctors and complete many of the same courses as medical doctors. In many states they're licensed to perform minor surgeries. Any actual reason they shouldn't be called doctors?

    88MPH

  • Professor Chaos said...

    If chiropractors can call themselves "doctor," all bets are off. That is why medical doctors and doctors of osteopathy should be referred to as "physicians."

    We have electronic health records at our medical center and every now and again a patient will come in whose chart makes some explicit mention of the person either as "Dr." John Doe, or there is a comment under their name (Dr. Doe). This means the patient made a specific mention of it to the person registering them when they first entered the system. 10 times out of 10 the patient is either a) a Ph.D. b) a dentist or c) a chiropractor.

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  • The first few years out of school (DDS) I hated being called "doctor"... Now many years later, I do like when younger people call me "doctor"...anybody near my own age , I tell them to go by my first name...only use it at resturants or hotels if they are being a DB first... Sometimes in life, you have to play the DB card back at people...However, have no problem with my kids friends calling me "Mr" ....on a related note, I call my orthopedic surgeon " Doctor" all the time and he never tells me to call him by his first name, so now I kind of think of him as a DB.

    EXT85

  • Richard Head said...

    This is a tough one for me...i disagree with chiro and optometry. Curious to hear your opinon of a Psy.D? My wife (MD) and I (JD) had a pretty good argument on this one...I said no.

    And in the hall of fame of douche moves, my dad (PhD and MD) corrected one of my friends in high school who called him Mr. Richardhead......."That's Dr. Richardhead"....I know he earned it, but can't imagine I would ever correct a kid who was being respectful in the first place just to stroke my own ego.

    PSyD are doctors IMHO. 4 years of post grad.

    Yes, I should refer to my JD brother as Esquire, yet he is not a gentleman.

    @Rook, we differ in opinion. More education warrants an initial level of respect, however, it can be lost with douchebaggery.

    This post was edited by Spartan_MD on 4/20/2012 at 7:50 PM

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  • If you aren't introducing yourself to a patient or their family member or friends when they are in your office and introduce yourself as "doctor", you are a major dousche. That probably made no sense but I have been drinking. My wife is sort of a doctor (orthodontist) and doesn't even introduce herself to patients as Dr. Cavaricci. She thinks it makes patients and mostly Their parents feel more comfortable. Sometimes it backfires and they think she is just an assistant.

    This post was edited by ZCavaricci21757 on 4/20/2012 at 8:14 PM

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  • Spartan_MD said...

    PSyD are doctors IMHO. 4 years of post grad.

    Yes, I should refer to my JD brother as Esquire, yet he is not a gentleman.

    @Rook, we differ in opinion. More education warrants an initial level of respect, however, it can be lost with douchebaggery.

    I think your referring to someone else. Id never referred to myself as esquire or list JD after my name except in very rare and formal legal settings. Mrs Rook does not like being called doctor or Ph.D except in formal work stuff but I think she does not boost enough and rarely tells people she is a Ph.D.

    Rook

  • It's really only ever appropriate in an academic setting.

    No one asks for a philosophy major in a crowding movie theater.

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  • tBell Tolls said...

    Sorry, but respect shouldn't be based on # of years in school.

    no it shouldn't, but the title is there because of the massive amount of effort they put in during those years. It is certainly not easy getting through med school, or chiropractic school, or dentistry school, or a PhD engineering program. The people who go through those programs achieve a level that, frankly, 90% of those in college just aren't mentally tough enough to take. That's why they get to be called doctor.

    Royal

  • Wife and I both have PhDs, and the only time we use the Dr title is during sex.

    Cym Jim