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ESPN Article: Gary Harris & MSU mention

  • Gary Harris, 6-4, SG (Indianapolis)

    Telep: "Indiana and Purdue took a ton of early commitments, but neither landed Harris, Indy's top prospect. Will he see room for himself at those schools, or will he venture out to places like Michigan State, Louisville, Illinois, Notre Dame or Michigan? Harris is smooth, mature and easy for other guys to play with. He can score for any team in America."

    Brennan: If Indiana lands Harris, it would only add to what Telep and his colleagues believe to be the best 2012 recruiting class in the country. It would also be a major blow to Purdue, which will see the aforementioned departures of star players Moore, Johnson and Hummel coincide with Tom Crean's emergence as a major force in the state's loaded recruiting scene. It would also make IU an immediate Big Ten title contender in 2012-13, something Hoosiers fans are desperate to experience after years of Mike Davis- and Kelvin Sampson-induced turmoil. But with all those talented players already in the fold, might Harris find the idea of playing at Purdue a more attractive option? Or will he go out of the state entirely?

    A recruiting layman's guide to the basketball Class of 2012 - ESPN

    Don't follow recruiting religiously? Let Eamonn Brennan and our guru Dave Telep take you through the players and latest developments you need to know for the Class of 2012.

    espn.go.com

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • Since when was Michigan in the running for him? lol

    MSUManiac13

  • MSUManiac13 said...

    Since when was Michigan in the running for him?

    Just like Hawaii and SJSU are "in the running" for Tate Forcier...they just don't know it yet.

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • MSUManiac13 said...

    Since when was Michigan in the running for him? lol

    Michigan offered him over a year ago, but even they know they don't have a shot.

    Diamond Dave

  • MSUManiac13 said...

    Since when was Michigan in the running for him? lol

    MSU and IU are the only real contenders in his recruitment, everyone else is playing second fiddle.

    This post was edited by bmrabbitt on 7/26/2011 at 9:03 PM

    bmrabbitt

  • Why?

    Why are we not in on more of these guys. We give our young men as much or more love and commitment then these other programs. Thank you Steve Smith. Our guys go to the league or are placed over seas. Our facilities are second to ..... very few.

    I do not get it.

    Mr. Harris, come on down and feel the love.

    northandwells

  • i will take issue with the comment, "mike davis...induced turmoil." last i checked, the turmoil around mike davis was the racist fanbase who couldn't get over that he was both not bob knight and not white. he took them to a national championship game and did fairly well.

    robb.

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    pollux

  • robb. said...

    i will take issue with the comment, "mike davis...induced turmoil." last i checked, the turmoil around mike davis was the racist fanbase who couldn't get over that he was both not bob knight and not white. he took them to a national championship game and did fairly well.

    robb.

    Exactly. He was 115-79 (55-41), with a conference title and national runner-up. In fact, Mike Davis accomplished more than Bobby had in the six years preceding his firing.

    And what about Kelvin Sampson. He went 43-15 (21-8). Obviously, his problems started and ended with NCAA violations.

    Winning at a high level was never the issue in Bloomington, until NCAA violations decimated the program. It was race and text messages.

    This post was edited by Gus Chiggins on 7/26/2011 at 10:23 PM

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  • ToxSpartan said...

    Just like Hawaii and SJSU are "in the running" for Tate Forcier...they just don't know it yet.

    What about Auburn? lol

    VeniceSpartan

  • northandwells said...

    Why?

    Why are we not in on more of these guys.

    What the hell are you talking about?

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • robb. said...
    last i checked, the turmoil around mike davis was the racist fanbase

    check again. no

    Pretty fucking stupid to call out race when they replaced a black coach with a black coach.

    Racist fan base. lol

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by RP McMurphy on 7/27/2011 at 7:56 AM

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • R.P. McMurphy said...

    check again. no

    The guy had two rough seasons and looked like he was on the upswing when he fired him. Granted, he didn't go to the tournament every year (which was expected at IU) but he wasn't fired based on his merits as a coach. They never gave him a chance, he might as well have been fired before the 2005 season.

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    fishrose

  • fishrose said...

    The guy had two rough seasons and looked like he was on the upswing when he fired him. Granted, he didn't go to the tournament every year (which was expected at IU) but he wasn't fired based on his merits as a coach. They never gave him a chance, he might as well have been fired before the 2005 season.

    OK, if he's such a great coach then what has he done since IU? He's not doing bad at UAB and I root for him to do well, but he ain't setting the college BBall world on fire either.

    I liked him, but a decision was made. My only quarrel is with the idiots who say that decision was racially motivated.

    Firing a black coach and replacing him with a black coach was just a trick I guess.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by RP McMurphy on 7/27/2011 at 7:55 AM

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Part of the problem was that IU was in decline in the last few years of the RMK era. It is tough to give all the blame to Mike Davis when he wasn't working with elite talent. And don't give me the fact that he took Knight's players to the finals - they were the worst team to make a Finals in decades (until Butler that is).

    BH Spartan

  • Sampson is at least part american Indian, so maybe the racist fans had a different outlook on that.

    Also, Davis did go crazy the one time and run onto the court during play of a game that was still in contention.

    Mike Davis Ejection at Indiana UK game

    Mike Davis ejection with chicken dance background

    www.youtube.com

    laconophile

  • I have no idea how people can claim to know where this kid is leaning..

    Even the experts and people who talk to him frequently have no idea. And it's not a bad thing, but even Harris at this time might not know.

    This is one of those "nobody knows anything" recruitments, so all we can do is "hang up and listen" popcorn

    Sparty2QP

  • R.P. McMurphy said...

    check again. no

    Pretty fucking stupid to call out race when they replaced a black coach with a black coach.

    Racist fan base. lol

    There is more truth to this statement than you seem ready to admit. Mike Davis had it harder than the next guy IMO.

    Walticus

  • This article is very bias, I'm not sure if the writers have ties to IU or not. They mention that he can be part of a top recruiting class at IU BUT don't mention that he can be part of a top recruiting class at MSU as well AND part of a team composed of 4 years worth of top recruiting classes.

    IU = Very good incoming class.
    MSU = Very good incoming class, very good incoming classes the past several years to help support him, a top coach in the nation to teach him.

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • Walticus said...

    There is more truth to this statement than you seem ready to admit. Mike Davis had it harder than the next guy IMO.

    People in Indiana are racist. When I was living in Indianapolis people seemed genuinely happy when someone burned down Reggie Miller's house. Could you imagine anyone in Detroit acting this way if the same thing happened to Barry Sanders or Joe Dumars?

    I don't know what it is, but you cross the Michigan/Indiana boarder and folks suddenly start talking with a southern accent, wearing cowboy hats, etc.

    The Purdue message boards (in particular) are littered with racist comments regarding the Harris recruitment (and Dawson).

    verde

  • ToxSpartan said...

    IU = Very good incoming class. MSU = Very good incoming class, very good incoming classes the past several years to help support him, a top coach in the nation to teach him.

    If you're Harris, why would you choose to play for the understudy (Creen), when you can play for the master (Izzo)?

    Proximity, perhaps. But that doesn't seem like an issue for Harris...

    verde

  • ToxSpartan said...

    This article is very bias, I'm not sure if the writers have ties to IU or not. They mention that he can be part of a top recruiting class at IU BUT don't mention that he can be part of a top recruiting class at MSU as well AND part of a team composed of 4 years worth of top recruiting classes.

    Brennan's main contribution to ESPN is to find college basketball articles around the country, refurbish them, and try to put witty comments to the story. He is as close to being a recruiting analyst as Stevie Wonder is to becoming a pilot.

    bmrabbitt

  • Because he is friends & teammates with a couple of IU commits already...

    EDIT: Response to Verde

    This post was edited by ScottsBadLiver on 7/27/2011 at 12:11 PM

    ScottsBadLiver

  • Walticus said...

    There is more truth to this statement than you seem ready to admit. Mike Davis had it harder than the next guy IMO.

    You can back it up with any evidence if you have any.

    I was living in Bloomington when the whole thing went down. This had nothing to do with a "racist" fan base, because it doesn't exist. It's a myth.

    Davis may have had it harder than the next guy, but it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Seriously, Indiana University is a world class U, just like the rest of the Big Ten. Do you really think the powers that be let him go because he was black only to hire another "minority"?

    Preposterous.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • verde said...

    People in Indiana are racist. When I was living in Indianapolis people seemed genuinely happy when someone burned down Reggie Miller's house. Could you imagine anyone in Detroit acting this way if the same thing happened to Barry Sanders or Joe Dumars?

    I don't know what it is, but you cross the Michigan/Indiana boarder and folks suddenly start talking with a southern accent, wearing cowboy hats, etc.

    The Purdue message boards (in particular) are littered with racist comments regarding the Harris recruitment (and Dawson).

    I don't even know where to begin with this garbage post. I'll just assume you're a fucking idiot and leave it at that.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • R.P. McMurphy said...

    You can back it up with any evidence if you have any.

    I was living in Bloomington when the whole thing went down. This had nothing to do with a "racist" fan base, because it doesn't exist. It's a myth.

    Davis may have had it harder than the next guy, but it had nothing to do with the color of his skin. Seriously, Indiana University is a world class U, just like the rest of the Big Ten. Do you really think the powers that be let him go because he was black only to hire another "minority"?

    Preposterous.

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