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ESPN: Should MSU/Wisconsin Align against the Old Guard?

  • Rittenberg and Bennet...

    Certainly an interesting idea

    This post was edited by AASpartan on 6/25/2012 at 1:08 PM

    Should MSU, Wisconsin align vs. old guard? - Big Ten Blog - ESPN

    Pinpointing the balance of power in the Big Ten these days is no easy task. Wisconsin has appeared in the past two Rose Bowls. Michigan State is enjo

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  • oddly enough when Tressel was in Columbus it wasn't bad for MSU. One got the impression MSU was often a good #2 when Tressel didn't have room for anymore Ohio kids.

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  • How the hell can two football teams "align" against other football teams??

    What a stupid premis.

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  • Does Luke post here?

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  • I do like the "Christmas Colors Alliance" as a name for the duo lol

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Basically reinforces the notion that recruiting has become a second football season that's won/lost on much more... uh... malleable terms than 60 minutes on a Saturday.

    dagomike

  • RPMadMSU said...

    How the hell can two football teams "align" against other football teams??

    What a stupid premis.

    You promote the rivalry as a coach, have your players talk it up, etc.

    Key thing for MSU - Wisky is that it's an organic rivalry, unlike the Land Grant cluster_#*$&. I was thinking about this the other day; realistically MSU or WI could be the Big 10 champs in '12 and '13, which would mean the 2 teams either won or shared the title for 4 straight years.

    Interesting to think about, but we'll see how it plays out on the field.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • antipathy

    is a good word.

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    How much of a tool does Bielema look like in that picture?

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    There that's a good start towards building an alliance.

    This post was edited by Pylon St8ofmind on 6/25/2012 at 12:26 PM

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  • Interesting points throughout the story but I agree that its premise is a bit odd. There's nothing really possible by way of alignment other than rooting interest, and I don't see Spartan fans lining up to support Bielema anytime soon. The question of sustained success without the headline-grabbing recruiting classes is a timeless debate and so far neither program has displayed any indication of slowing down.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    You promote the rivalry as a coach, have your players talk it up, etc.

    Key thing for MSU - Wisky is that it's an organic rivalry, unlike the Land Grant cluster_#*$&.

    As far as the MSU-Wisconsin rivalry, unless we meet again in the B1G CG, the Badgers will be off our schedule until 2017 I believe.

    Trevor Barnes

  • Does it really matter if MSU-UW align? I don't really get it. The media will continue to fluff Ohio State and Michigan because that's what they have always done.

    MSU can only control itself, and finally MSU is trending forward and has stability. If it means the media talks about us more, great. If they choose to focus on the "old guard", well it's their loss.

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  • RPMadMSU said...

    How the hell can two football teams "align" against other football teams??

    What a stupid premis.

    It would start with a protected schedule - same as UM/OSU. Then crank up some hype.

    The writer got one thing correct - the best games in the B1G over the last two seasons have been the Wisky/MSU match up.

    Push ESPN gameday to show up in Madison on October 27. Make this matchup matter.

    Dicks Fake Eye20793

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    As far as the MSU-Wisconsin rivalry, unless we meet again in the B1G CG, the Badgers will be off our schedule until 2017 I believe.

    That's correct; really, it makes sense for MSU - WI to be the protected rivalry. MSU - IU and WI - Minny doesn't do much, other than guarantee a W on the schedule (as things stand now).

    At the same time, when the alignments were being discussed, MSU didn't have the success to merit much consideration; Iowa was the "3rd best" team in the Legends. State has vaulted Iowa since then.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Dick's Fake Eye said...

    It would start with a protected schedule - same as UM/OSU. Then crank up some hype.

    The writer got one thing correct - the best games in the B1G over the last two seasons have been the Wisky/MSU match up.

    Push ESPN gameday to show up in Madison on October 27. Make this matchup matter.

    Wisconsin would never leave their protected Minnesota rival.

    Outside of that?

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  • Giant Moose said...

    Does it really matter if MSU-UW align? I don't really get it. The media will continue to fluff Ohio State and Michigan because that's what they have always done.

    MSU can only control itself, and finally MSU is trending forward and has stability. If it means the media talks about us more, great. If they choose to focus on the "old guard", well it's their loss.

    Media just follows the money. OSU/UM fans and the programs bend over and lick each other's balls, so it drives interest, which drives ratings, which drives coverage, which drives promotion.

    dagomike

  • No way, have you seen the cars they drive in Wisconsin?

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    That's correct; really, it makes sense for MSU - WI to be the protected rivalry. MSU - IU and WI - Minny doesn't do much, other than guarantee a W on the schedule (as things stand now).

    At the same time, when the alignments were being discussed, MSU didn't have the success to merit much consideration; Iowa was the "3rd best" team in the Legends. State has vaulted Iowa since then.

    MSU and Ohio State should swap divisions truthfully. But scUM and tOSU threw such a fit with this whole division thing that they made their own game less relevant. lol

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  • Nebraska is "old guard?"

    spartan1979

  • spartan1979 said...

    Nebraska is "old guard?"

    Apparently... uhoh

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  • RPMadMSU said...

    How the hell can two football teams "align" against other football teams??

    What a stupid premis.

    We could loan them Gholston and a couple others on Nov 10 when we have an off week. I'm sure that would do it.

    Hulktonio

  • L_Himmler said...

    I was actually the guy who mailed in that question. I saw that article at first and was like, wtf, Rittenberg stole my idea until I saw my email.

    Nucky, stop claiming that you are Luke from Marietta.

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  • L_Himmler said...

    I was actually the guy who mailed in that question. I saw that article at first and was like, wtf, Rittenberg stole my idea until I saw my email.

    Luke, I am your father.

    sprtnjdk

  • I don't know about the whole alignement thing, but to me it seems like MSU and Wisky have been the best two teams in the two major sports over the past 5 years.

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  • DMBSparty said...

    I don't know about the whole alignement thing, but to me it seems like MSU and Wisky have been the best two teams in the two major sports over the past 5 years.

    This type of thinking will get you yelled at by rednecks and community college drop-outs North AND south of Toledo

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  • RPMadMSU said...

    Wisconsin would never leave their protected Minnesota rival.

    Outside of that?

    And why would they lol Why would we want to leave punchingbag, I mean protected rival IU? lol

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