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Father catches daughter's molester in the act, kills him

  • Ghost, I get where you're coming from, but in a situation like this getting beat to death seems like the best way for the rapist to go out. That man would've been a human toilet bowl from day 1 in the pen. From an ethical standpoint coming from a laymen law wise this predator got off easy.

    This post was edited by MIST on 6/19/2012 at 7:43 PM

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  • Ghost I have to disagree on this. The girl is FOUR years old. The dude was a pshycofreak like jerry sandusky and needed to be taken away from society so he couldn't harm anyone else. In that case theres two options jail and death. The guy saved taxpayers so hes a hero, especially in texas.

    Jahlil Suggs

  • sounds like the world is now a better place that a low life is dead.

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  • Jahlil Suggs said...

    Ghost I have to disagree on this. The girl is FOUR years old. The dude was a pshycofreak like jerry sandusky and needed to be taken away from society so he couldn't harm anyone else. In that case theres two options jail and death. The guy saved taxpayers so hes a hero, especially in texas.

    ya'll are debating the wrong point... whether he deserved to die or not isn't the legal issue to be debated. Whether it is reasonable to pummel a guy in the head when you find him raping your 4-year old daughter is the issue. How anyone can say that it isn't reasonable to defend ANY 4 year old in that manner, let alone your OWN 4 year old is beyond me. That's what the man did. The attacker died as a result. He didn't use "lethal force" intentionally. He didn't shoot him in the face. He didn't chop his head off. He punched him repeatedly, and did not mean to kill him. He acted appropriately under the circumstances. The attacker dying is almost irrelevant.

    State or Die

  • Count gHostula said...

    You are dumb, insightless, and emotional. People like you are the reason the nazis killed 6 million Jews. The difference between people like you and me is that I actually look at the facts and possibilities objectively.

    Witness informed the girl's father that the she was being taken to a secluded location, guy had his pants down, examination confirmed that the girl was being sexually molested, 9-1-1 tapes show the guy distraught that the dude he beat up was going to die. What more do you want? Asserting that people who have taken those factors into account and concluded that the guy got what was coming to him are equivalent to Nazi enablers is seriously retarded. You're a fucking idiot. Zilly downvotes.

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  • State or Die said...

    ya'll are debating the wrong point... whether he deserved to die or not isn't the legal issue to be debated. Whether it is reasonable to pummel a guy in the head when you find him raping your 4-year old daughter is the issue. How anyone can say that it isn't reasonable to defend ANY 4 year old in that manner, let alone your OWN 4 year old is beyond me. That's what the man did. The attacker died as a result. He didn't use "lethal force" intentionally. He didn't shoot him in the face. He didn't chop his head off. He punched him repeatedly, and did not mean to kill him. He acted appropriately under the circumstances. The attacker dying is almost irrelevant.

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

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  • Count gHostula said...

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

    What would you do if you saw your kid getting raped by some creepy looking dude? This guy got caught up in the rage and adrenaline, He probably didn't mean to kill the guy and if he did, well still not a big deal.

    Jahlil Suggs

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  • dude is my fuckin hero !

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  • Count gHostula said...

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

    Its good that you would take a cool calm and collected approach to witnessing a 4 y/o being raped. That will prove itself useful someday

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  • Count gHostula said...

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

    Dude, you talk about being "objective" but in reality - you are the least objective person in this thread. You poll 100 people and ask them to put themselves in the position this man was in, and give them 2 choices on reaction: Do you think you would

    A) hit the guy a couple times and think "eh, thats probably good, his dick isn't inside my 4 year old anymore - so we're cool"

    or

    B) hit him until you lose count or run out of energy... and by the time your done, you almost don't remember reacting.

    100 people would choose B. Your stance is completely based on your interpretation of the law - which leads me to question your ability as a lawyer, BTW. No jury would agree with your stance. Sorry. The only sense you've made in this entire thread is the suggestion that there may have been something else going on between the two that he could have wanted him dead - no one will ever know, but its 100% irrelevant.

    EDIT... oh, and PS - if "a couple of blows to the head would have sufficed".... what if he died from 2 blows? Your stance is flawed.

    This post was edited by State or Die on 6/19/2012 at 8:22 PM

    State or Die

  • I've been trying to verbalize how I feel on this matter, but really can't. I'll sum it up as best as I can. If you walk in on someone molesting your child, by all means, kill them.

    At the same time, I don't like the idea of citizens having the legal right to decide life and death over an unarmed or incapacitated citizen.

    Ideally, this person would have been arrested, tried, and then the dad would have been given the right to finish the job if he so pleased.

    I guess what I'm getting at, and I'm not saying this happened in this case, but let's say you walked in on another person with your child who was doing something that LOOKED suspicious to you, but really wasn't, and you mistook it and beat him to death.

    Bottom line I guess I'm glad this POS is dead, but I don't like the precedent.

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  • State or Die said...

    A) hit the guy a couple times and think "eh, thats probably good, his dick isn't inside my 4 year old anymore - so we're cool"

    Yeah ghost is just trolling no way in hell he believes what he's typing. You can't bullshit a bullshitter and you can't troll a troller.

    Jahlil Suggs

  • Count gHostula said...

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

    How many blows did he throw. It might not have been many. He needed a WWE crowd to count the blows.

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  • Count gHostula said...

    A couple of blows to the head would have sufficed. That's all you need to stop the guy.

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  • Count gHostula said...

    You are dumb, insightless, and emotional. People like you are the reason the nazis killed 6 million Jews. The difference between people like you and me is that I actually look at the facts and possibilities objectively.

    Yes, then 99% of everyone is dumb, insightless, and emotional on this subject then. You are one of the very few people in this world who wouldn't react in that way.

    Dendrobates

  • iCameron said...

    Witness informed the girl's father that the she was being taken to a secluded location, guy had his pants down, examination confirmed that the girl was being sexually molested, 9-1-1 tapes show the guy distraught that the dude he beat up was going to die. What more do you want? Asserting that people who have taken those factors into account and concluded that the guy got what was coming to him are equivalent to Nazi enablers is seriously retarded. You're a fucking idiot. Zilly downvotes.

    When the story first broke none of those facts were available but even if they were we still don't know all the details of what happened. Last time I checked molestation wasn't punishable by death.

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  • I understand the father's emotional reaction in this case but in general gHost is 100% right. There's a justice system in the US for these situations. That some here emotionally say the attacker should automatically be removed from the planet is completely contrary to the US constitution.

    MSchott

  • MSchott said...

    I understand the father's emotional reaction in this case but in general gHost is 100% right. There's a justice system in the US for these situations. That some here emotionally say the attacker should automatically be removed from the planet is completely contrary to the US constitution.

    The justice system worked perfectly in this case...

    Again, whether he "deserved to die" is not the issue.

    This post was edited by State or Die on 6/19/2012 at 8:37 PM

    State or Die

  • MSchott said...

    I understand the father's emotional reaction in this case but in general gHost is 100% right. There's a justice system in the US for these situations. That some here emotionally say the attacker should automatically be removed from the planet is completely contrary to the US constitution.

    In the courts, it's not punishable by death.

    However, use of lethal force is allowed by law to stop this act.

    Hence why, legally, these emotional issues are warranted but yes null and void. He acted in accordance to the law so that's that.

    It was in the "US constitution", or rather the Texas lawbooks. It would never be in the constitution, but he acted according to the law.

    This post was edited by sprtnjdk on 6/19/2012 at 8:40 PM

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  • sprtnjdk said...

    In the courts, it's not punishable by death.

    However, use of lethal force is allowed by law to stop this act.

    Hence why, legally, these emotional issues are warranted but yes null and void. He acted in accordance to the law so that's that.

    It was in the "US constitution", or rather the Texas lawbooks. It would never be in the constitution, but he acted according to the law.

    I'm not commenting on what the father did but on the emotional reactions here that say fuck the court system and let's use vigilante justice.

    MSchott

  • The Pantry said...

    Maybe you should procreate and reconsider your fucked-up lawyer mentality...?

    Ayfuckinmen. How many more little girls lives were saved by this a piece of shit going to hell. Everyone knows that pedophiles are so mentally fucked up that they are one of the worst repeat offenders. Yeah just punch the guy a couple times for trying to screw a four year old girl, that's all that needed to happen. As far as I'm concerned all baby rapers deserve to leave this planet early.

    Ghost your mentality would definately change I believe if you were a father.

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  • Dendrobates said...

    Yes, then 99% of everyone is dumb, insightless, and emotional on this subject then. You are one of the very few people in this world who wouldn't react in that way.

    Are you really that minimal that you can't understand the distinction? And where did I say I wouldn't act that way? That's the whole point, we don't know the facts! In the case I had the kid said "daddy touched my pee pee" and then "daddy played with my pee pee" because the mom manipulated her into saying that - LATER, we found out what really happened.

    I'm not saying the guy isn't a perp or that some force isn't justified. My point is that I'll reserve my judgment until I know the facts.

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  • MSchott said...

    I'm not commenting on what the father did but on the emotional reactions here that say fuck the court system and let's use vigilante justice.

    Ironic that the court system, or rather the legislative system, gives citizens the right to use "vigilante justice".

    Courts only exist to decide if the law was followed.

    Legislative branch exists to create laws.

    sprtnjdk

  • sprtnjdk said...

    In the courts, it's not punishable by death.

    However, use of lethal force is allowed by law to stop this act.

    Hence why, legally, these emotional issues are warranted but yes null and void. He acted in accordance to the law so that's that.

    It was in the "US constitution", or rather the Texas lawbooks. It would never be in the constitution, but he acted according to the law.

    That's the point: TO STOP THE ACT

    I'm pretty sure that the guy, once he realized the father was there, STOPPED THE ACT, but again we don't know...

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