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Grade the Pistons Draft

  • For the third year in a row they had their dream scenario of a highly ranked guy dropping to them. Overall I think their draft was high risk/high reward but if it pays off it could be a great one. I like the core that they now have with Monroe, Knight, and Drummond. I am giving them an A-.

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  • Jet Rodriguez said...

    For the third year in a row they had their dream scenario of a highly ranked guy dropping to them. Overall I think their draft was high risk/high reward but if it pays off it could be a great one. I like the core that they now have with Monroe, Knight, and Drummond. I am giving them an A-.

    In the NBA, I don't think you can "grade" much other than the first round. In that sense I give them an A. We got the position we needed, and a player that was graded several picks ahead of ours.

    If either of the second rounders play a minute, it's all gravy.

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    "As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion" -- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.

    Rocket_Play

  • They got a extremely young, green skinny player who is a horrible free throw shooter. He will fit right in.

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    greenbayspartan

  • Anytime you can snag a 29% FT shooter with the 9th pick of the draft it shapes up to be the best draft in the history of mankind.

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    LooseGoose2012

  • greenbayspartan said...

    They got a extremely young, green skinny player who is a horrible free throw shooter. He will fit right in.

    Doesn't he weigh 290?

    Dr Klopek19856

  • i give them a W+.

    P Rob

  • LooseGoose2012 said...

    Anytime you can snag a 29% FT shooter with the 9th pick of the draft it shapes up to be the best draft in the history of mankind.

    yeah because guys who can't shoot free throws never play in the NBA

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    AUAlum06

  • AUAlum06 said...

    yeah because guys who can't shoot free throws never play in the NBA

    and the Pistons never won much with Ben Wallace .

    WBill19542

  • AUAlum06 said...

    yeah because guys who can't shoot free throws never play in the NBA

    The FT shooting, in and of itself, doesn't mean anything. However, it is just another indication that he lacks NBA ready basketball skills. From an offensive perspective, AD's game is all projection, because right now he will be nothing more than a garbage man, rim runner. The conern I have with this is that it will clog the lane for the Pistons' slashers, pick-and-roll and face-up bigs.

    I do think he has the ability to affect the game on defense early in his career, so the Ben Wallace comparisons aren't too far off--although AD is much bigger and probably more athletic. In pick-and-roll defense, he has a chance to be special with his ability to bend at the waist and contain smaller players.

    I think a fair comparison/expectation is Deandre Jordan, probably with a little more upside.

    Either way, it was an upside play. At nine, and with a need for size, I think it was worth the risk. I'd give them a B.

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    Gus Chiggins

  • AUAlum06 said...

    yeah because guys who can't shoot free throws never play in the NBA

    Well big Ben holds the NBA record at 41.4% so Drummond might be able to edge him out for that and keep the record in the Pistons family.

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    LooseGoose2012

  • Drummond reminds me of a guy who plays because he's good and because he's tall - not because he loves the game. Those guys always worry me.

    That being said, at nine you take the risk. Barnes had he been there woulda been perfect but you didn't have trade assets to move up.

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    RBW Spartan

  • A+. Got the big guy they coveted and an athletic SF and shooter in the 2nd round.

    BH Spartan

  • Why did Gilbert draft Dion Waiters....No wonder why Lebron left.

    SpartanHoops

  • Gus Chiggins said...

    The FT shooting, in and of itself, doesn't mean anything. However, it is just another indication that he lacks NBA ready basketball skills. From an offensive perspective, AD's game is all projection, because right now he will be nothing more than a garbage man, rim runner. The conern I have with this is that it will clog the lane for the Pistons' slashers, pick-and-roll and face-up bigs.

    I do think he has the ability to affect the game on defense early in his career, so the Ben Wallace comparisons aren't too far off--although AD is much bigger and probably more athletic. In pick-and-roll defense, he has a chance to be special with his ability to bend at the waist and contain smaller players.

    I think a fair comparison/expectation is Deandre Jordan, probably with a little more upside.

    Either way, it was an upside play. At nine, and with a need for size, I think it was worth the risk. I'd give them a B.

    This is the nature of the NBA draft in the 21st century. There are few players that aren't projects. Other than the very best players like Durant, Rose, Davis, Irving, Wall and the like, the rest need seasoning before they can become legit NBA players. This is especially true for big men.

    MSchott

  • Gus Chiggins said...

    The FT shooting, in and of itself, doesn't mean anything. However, it is just another indication that he lacks NBA ready basketball skills.

    Wait? are you saying Shaq lacked NBA ready basketball skill throughout his career?

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  • Saw a grade at CBC Sportsline of D+

    "Andre Drummond (9): He's so talented, so physically gifted, but Joe Dumars needed more of a sure thing. Drummond is a nice kid -- too nice. He doesn't play with much intensity, hasn't developed any low-post moves and has a mediocre basketball IQ. I hate to kill this pick because, again, Drummond is a high-character kid. But this was a major risk, even at number nine."

    Nommad

  • MSchott said...

    This is the nature of the NBA draft in the 21st century. There are few players that aren't projects. Other than the very best players like Durant, Rose, Davis, Irving, Wall and the like, the rest need seasoning before they can become legit NBA players. This is especially true for big men.

    Plus the Drummond is 18 years old. He easily could be just leaving HS.

    7 footers who aren't projects at 18 come along once a decade.

    WBill19542

  • How do you see the Pistons rotation going next year...I'd like..kind of have a glut of SF...again.

    I'd like to see them amnesty Charlie V...like everyone else. If they do, I think Frank goes with this:

    PG: Knight
    SG: Stuckey
    SF: Maggette (until he is traded)/Prince
    C: Drummond
    PF: Monroe

    PG: Bynum
    SG: Middleton/English
    SF: Jerebko/Daye
    SF: Prince
    PF: Maxiell

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    RPMadMSU

  • F. As in grading a draft the day after it happened is F'ing stupid. You can't grade drafts till years later. Mel Kipe and the ESPN gave Matt Millen more than one A for his drafts,

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    Eggy

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Wait? are you saying Shaq lacked NBA ready basketball skill throughout his career?

    You obviously cannot read. Or don't understand the meaning of "in and of itself" and/or "indicator," seeing as you are saying exactly what I am saying.

    I am simply saying AD's free throw shooting is another indicator that he lacks offensive basketball skills, not that he doesn't have offensive basketball skills. But then when you consider he isn't a good passer, a good shooter, a good ball-handler and has no established low-post game, you realize he is an offensive project--and that's putting it midly. But as I said, the FT shooting, taken by itself, doesn't tell us anything about his ability to play on the offensive end.

    And since you brought up Shaq, I would say his FT shooting should could also be an indicator that he lacked an offensive skill game, too. When taken in whole, however, Shaq demonstrated an elite low-post game, sufficient ball-handling and exception passing for a big man. In the end, the FT shooting merely indicated Shaq couldn't shoot from any range whatsoever.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by Gus Chiggins on 6/29/2012 at 8:39 AM

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  • Taking Drummond at #9 is a wise gamble. He's the type of player (if he develops) that you simply can't get in free agency without parting with significant assets of your own.

    Also, the Pistons already have a skilled big who can pass/score in Greg Monroe. All Drummond needs to do is finish on the break, score garbage baskets (put backs, ally oops, etc), rebound, and block shots. Scoring was never the Pistons problem last year ... it was stopping teams from scoring easy baskets at the rim.

    This post was edited by verde on 6/29/2012 at 8:40 AM

    verde

  • tRCMB would have probably hated Dwayne Wade, Bosh or Melo over Darko too and given that a D+, so I don't put much stock into any of this, or any of the so called 'expert' grades. I will wait and see how he does on the court, which I think will be good.

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    The MDS

  • The Piston's needed a big man. The choices were Drummond, Henson, Leonard or Zeller. Of those, Drummond was easily the consensus best choice. He was projected to go higher than 9. No brainer.

    MSchott

  • I don't understand the whole "Drummond was a risky pick" nancies ITT. Pretty much every pick, even in the lottery, is a risk.

    The_Dude

  • Yea, when you consider that they probably would have taken Henson if Drummond wasn't there, we should all be thanking our lucky stars. What I really like about it is the length. The Pistons are stacking up length in the front court and that is smart. We've got 4 really long guys that can play.

    And unlike everybody else, I like Drummond as a PF. Monroe is an awesome center and I really think he fits there better than Drummond, Monroe has post moves and can pass out of the post well. Drummond on the other hand is real big and athletic, but I wouldn't call him a good center for a half court offense at this point. I think he might be defending Centers on defense and play as a rebounding 4 on offense. If he can develop, he could be an Amare Stoudamire type player, that's how athletic I think he is.

    Thepostmen