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Homebrew Crew - what you been brewing?, Part Deux

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    I do this with the dishwasher and bottles, but I still rinse out the inside of each bottle with sanitizer right before filling with beer.

    I am paranoid though.

    +2. I usually have a bucket of sanitizer going, and it takes 2 minutes to soak them and put them back on the dishwasher rack.

    BH Spartan

  • BH Spartan said...

    Got a big brew weekend on tap - doing a brew with ICEatALAMO on Friday, doing a KBS clone. Nothing like make a hige beer on your first go around, I guess. Then doing a brew day with some other buddies on Saturday. Haven't decided what to do yet, thinking either an Altbier, Patersbier, Rye Pale Ale, or a Saison. Decisions, decisions.

    Just finished the KBS clone - man that thing is like motor oil. OG of 1.095 - yeast will have it's work cut out for it.

    FYI - is anyone is going to brew with flaked oats, add about 30-60 minutes to your brew day for slower than shit sparge-time.

    BH Spartan

  • My Pops just brewed a Haus Pale ale, i didnt read through all these posts but anyone else a fan of this. Its an all wheat beer, very tasty cheers

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  • john winger said...

    An wheat only grain beer you say??? I'm all ears if he will share the recipe and mashing method. I tried an all wheat and I could not convert enough starches to fermentable sugars. Pitched down the drain.

    im sure he would be more than hoppy to share his recipe. Ill post it here later once he sends it to me.

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  • Just got done with a Russian imperial hazelnut coffee stout. Been in the bottle since tuesday. Really amazing tastes. 8.7%

    Probably used the wrong yeast though, it was done in 24 hrs....tried to repitch, but no action.

    The Matador

  • Finally obtained an empty keg from craigslist today.

    OK, anyone have good tips on converting it to a keggle?

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  • BrodieMSU said...

    Finally obtained an empty keg from craigslist today.

    OK, anyone have good tips on converting it to a keggle?

    Cut out the top, drill hole, put in a bulkhead (http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/weldless-kettle-bulkhead.html) and attach a valve. If you can weld, you can also weld a valve to it.

    BH Spartan

  • So for my very first brew, which was a wheat extract kit, I promised the wife I would make it a raspberry wheat. So, after reading some info online, I added about 3 lbs of frozen raspberrys, which I heated to pasteurize, to the primary a couple days after initial fermentation.

    Its been about 1.5 wks since the brew first went in primary and about 1 wk since raspberrys went in. I checked it out last night, 1.012 SG and tastes pretty good (basically harpers raspberry wheat), but it is super super cloudy with sediment. Question is this, should I rack it to a secondary and wait for it to clear? Will it ever clear?

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  • BrodieMSU said...

    So for my very first brew, which was a wheat extract kit, I promised the wife I would make it a raspberry wheat. So, after reading some info online, I added about 3 lbs of frozen raspberrys, which I heated to pasteurize, to the primary a couple days after initial fermentation.

    Its been about 1.5 wks since the brew first went in primary and about 1 wk since raspberrys went in. I checked it out last night, 1.012 SG and tastes pretty good (basically harpers raspberry wheat), but it is super super cloudy with sediment. Question is this, should I rack it to a secondary and wait for it to clear? Will it ever clear?

    I would just bottle it, nothing wrong with a cloudy wheat beer. I've probably done 50+ batches and gave up on making crystal clear beers. Remember that the big brewers filter their beer, which we don't typically have the equipment to do.

    If you really want to make it clear, transfer the beer to a secondary, refrigerate the vessel to 40'ish degrees and add some finings/gelatin 2-3 days before bottling (but you need to add fresh yeast in the bottling bucket). Best way I know how to do it.

    BH Spartan

  • I'd give it another week or two in primary, then bottle it. The extra time will likely allow the yeast to clean up it's mess a little so there won't be as much sediment, but the beer will probably still be hazy/cloudy.

    Most of my homebrews are cloudy, even when I've used a secondary. The visible sediment seems to go away with longer fermentation time though.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Ahh, wheat beers are supposed to be cloudy.

    Speaking of, it will be an exciting brew weekend for me. I will be brewing a Hefeweizen (Northern Brewer's extract kit) and bottling my first brew - an Amber Ale. I am pretty psyched to actually be close to trying my first brew - I hope I didn't screw it up.

    Klevin Torborg

  • Good Job, I've only brewed twice. Bottling day is pretty simple and just enjoy.

    What's the secret to Head retention? What's good and what effects it? Why does my beer very between my batch? Should I think about those Sugar tablets in each beer?

    MSUPosse

  • MSUPosse said...

    Good Job, I've only brewed twice. Bottling day is pretty simple and just enjoy.

    What's the secret to Head retention? What's good and what effects it? Why does my beer very between my batch? Should I think about those Sugar tablets in each beer?

    And how did it turn out!?!?

    BH Spartan

  • Klevin Torborg said...

    Ahh, wheat beers are supposed to be cloudy.

    Speaking of, it will be an exciting brew weekend for me. I will be brewing a Hefeweizen (Northern Brewer's extract kit) and bottling my first brew - an Amber Ale. I am pretty psyched to actually be close to trying my first brew - I hope I didn't screw it up.

    Good luck.
    The Hefe I am going to bottle this weekend is a Northern Brewer extract kit. Probably the same one you are doing.
    Are you going with the wyeast, or dry yeast? I used wyeast without a starter and it seemed to ferment like crazy straight away.

    SG was 1.050 and 4 days later was down to 1.015. I started this one on 4/3 and will bottle it this weekend... so 4 weeks in primary then straight to bottle. (Going to skip secondary on this one).

    I'm going to start the NB Fat Tire clone this weekend, though after reading reviews it is good but nothing like Fat Tire. I'm going to use a starter for this one though... hope my fermenter doesn't blow up. lol

    Phil McCrackin

  • Diving in with my first starter tonight for a Saison I'm brewing on Saturday, unless work ruins my weekend of course.

    For the all-grain brewers, what do you use for your HLT? I have a patchwork of pans going at the moment, and it's hard to get 3 pans to hit 170 or so at the same time for my sparge (I batch sparge). I'm considering getting another brewpot, but I figured I'd ask if there's something that makes more sense. I mainly brew 3 gallon batches, but I'll probably go back to 5 at some point.

    daggermouth

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    Good luck. The Hefe I am going to bottle this weekend is a Northern Brewer extract kit. Probably the same one you are doing. Are you going with the wyeast, or dry yeast? I used wyeast without a starter and it seemed to ferment like crazy straight away.

    SG was 1.050 and 4 days later was down to 1.015. I started this one on 4/3 and will bottle it this weekend... so 4 weeks in primary then straight to bottle. (Going to skip secondary on this one).

    I'm going to start the NB Fat Tire clone this weekend, though after reading reviews it is good but nothing like Fat Tire. I'm going to use a starter for this one though... hope my fermenter doesn't blow up. lol

    Yeah, it probably is the same one. I am going with the dry yeast. My plan is that on my next one I want to try liquid. Trying to eliminate steps for now since this is still only my second brew. Thought is I can see how my first two turn out and then add steps from there.

    I read the same reviews as you on the fat tire clone. Have thought about doing that one myself, although I think the next brew I will do is the NB St. Peter's Porter. I want to do a Porter and that one has great reviews. I probably won't be doing it for a few months yet - otherwise I would have more beer than I could drink (I know, why is that a problem?).

    Klevin Torborg

  • Klevin Torborg said...

    Yeah, it probably is the same one. I am going with the dry yeast. My plan is that on my next one I want to try liquid. Trying to eliminate steps for now since this is still only my second brew. Thought is I can see how my first two turn out and then add steps from there.

    I read the same reviews as you on the fat tire clone. Have thought about doing that one myself, although I think the next brew I will do is the NB St. Peter's Porter. I want to do a Porter and that one has great reviews. I probably won't be doing it for a few months yet - otherwise I would have more beer than I could drink (I know, why is that a problem?).

    I'll be sure to let you know how the Fat Tire (and the Hefe) turn out. The wyeast can be used successfully without a starter, though after doing a bunch of reading it seems like starters are the preferred method for any liquid yeast and something I'll probably do moving forward. Nothing wrong with dry yeast though, I've done several good batches using dry.

    Phil McCrackin

  • daggermouth said...

    Diving in with my first starter tonight for a Saison I'm brewing on Saturday, unless work ruins my weekend of course.

    For the all-grain brewers, what do you use for your HLT? I have a patchwork of pans going at the moment, and it's hard to get 3 pans to hit 170 or so at the same time for my sparge (I batch sparge). I'm considering getting another brewpot, but I figured I'd ask if there's something that makes more sense. I mainly brew 3 gallon batches, but I'll probably go back to 5 at some point.

    I have a converted cooler for my mash tun and use a pot for the lauter tun. Pots are so much cheaper now, I'd look into one, even aluminum if you want to go on the cheap.

    BH Spartan

  • Welp, I think Ill bottle my raspberry wheat next weekend and let it sit for a while. In the meantime, I found this recipe on another board for a beligan tripel, similar to dragonmead final absolution:

    Recipe Type: All Grain
    Yeast: WLP500
    Yeast Starter: no
    Additional Yeast or Yeast Starter: Used two WLP500 vials
    Batch Size (Gallons): 6
    Original Gravity: 1.082
    Final Gravity: ?
    IBU: ?
    Boiling Time (Minutes): 60mins
    Color: Yello
    Primary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 14days 69F
    Additional Fermentation: .
    Secondary Fermentation (# of Days & Temp): 21 Days @69F
    Tasting Notes: Light banana, fruity with some spice hints...

    Let me start of by saying, this recipe is simple to make. I converted over to extracts to save on prep time. I wanted something simple that most can make. The Belgian is going to be a clone of a 2006 Gold Medal winner in the World Beer cup in 2006 (Dragonmead Final Absolution). I was lucky enough to get the recipe. I converted the recipe over to LME and DME. I made a few changes to it also. I changed the 60mins hops from Hallertauer Mittelfruh to German Hallertau and used DME amber instead of munich malt. I didn't use a starter either, I opted for using two vials of WLP500 instead (so i wouldn't have to wait). I regret not making a starter though, because It took 24 hours before it took off. I had to stir it up a little bit then it started fermenting instantly.

    Let me know what you guys think? I'm dabating on adding another 3.3lbs of Pilsner light LME to get around 10%. But I'm not sure how the the final gravity will end up at. I heard some people with attenuation of around 85%. I figure if i get 77% then this will be 8.2%. The recipe is supposed to be 8.5%. I think I just may leave this alone and see how it comes out then go from there. I will keep everyone updated on how it comes out.

    Day 5: It has a very nice smell of a light banana, fruit hints with some spice! WOW, can't wait until this is done!
    Day 6: Took hydro reading of 1.020 (thats 8% after 6 days) Smells very good! Has the look and consistancy of a Belgian but it's cloudy (but that's expected), has a very nice yellow color. I'm waiting until day 10 to 14 to rack into secondary.
    Day 10: 1.016 gravity, going to give it a few more days before i rack it into the secondary.
    Day 16: Reracked into secondary, 1.016 gravity still.
    Day 32: Kegged it!!!! same gravity and all I can say is WOWWWWW
    Here is a video review of the beer i'm cloning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-FDMgm2Q5w

    Extract:
    3 x 3.3lbs Pilsner Light malt extract LME
    1 x 1lbs Amber DME
    1 x 1.5lbs Belgian Candy
    12.4 total pounds of fermentables

    Hops: (IBU came out at 23 but you can range from 20 to 25)
    2 oz. German Hallertau 3.8%AA 60min
    1 oz. Styrian Goldings 3.4% AA 30min
    1 oz. Saaz 2.8% AA 3min

    Yeast:
    2 x WLP500 Trappist Ale Yeast

    Im building my keggle this weekend and will try brewing this monster next weekend. Ill do the extract version.

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  • BH Spartan said...

    And how did it turn out!?!?

    Are you going to be at the spring game?? I can bring you a bottle to try. I think it's good. But a few of the bottles that I have had in the fridge for a month or more now, 1 out of 5 seems to be a little flat. The ones I put in the fridge to cool to drink within a week seem better. That's where I was wondering about head retention and sugar tablets(instead of priming sugar).

    It's a Honey-Weizen and I know wheat beers are better drank sooner then later. I haven't bottled my others IPA's, but I'm wondering about the sugar before I do.

    MSUPosse

  • MSUPosse said...

    Are you going to be at the spring game?? I can bring you a bottle to try. I think it's good. But a few of the bottles that I have had in the fridge for a month or more now, 1 out of 5 seems to be a little flat. The ones I put in the fridge to cool to drink within a week seem better. That's where I was wondering about head retention and sugar tablets(instead of priming sugar).

    It's a Honey-Weizen and I know wheat beers are better drank sooner then later. I haven't bottled my others IPA's, but I'm wondering about the sugar before I do.

    No, I won't be able to make it up there. The problem is probably that the priming sugar you put in the bottling bucket was not evenly distributed. Some are more carbonated then others, I assume. Head retention is a function of ingredients and carbonation, mostly. Given that it is a wheat beer, I'd guess the carbonation may be off. For future bottling, my practice is to put the end of your siphone tube agains the wall of the bucket and make a half moon. When you siphon, it creates a whirlpool type action. I put the cooled priming sugar in as soon as I start the siphon and that tend to mix it pretty good. I also santize a spoon and gently stir a couple of times during bottling so the sugar doesn't separate. By no means are my bottles consistently carbonated, but I've found it does a better job.

    BH Spartan

  • BH Spartan said...

    I have a converted cooler for my mash tun and use a pot for the lauter tun. Pots are so much cheaper now, I'd look into one, even aluminum if you want to go on the cheap.

    Thoughts on where to pick up a 8-10 gal aluminum stockpot cheap? I don't really need it to be ported or anything. I would prefer not to have something that big shipped. Restaurant supply store?

    daggermouth

  • daggermouth said...

    Thoughts on where to pick up a 8-10 gal aluminum stockpot cheap? I don't really need it to be ported or anything. I would prefer not to have something that big shipped. Restaurant supply store?

    I dont think they are cheap, I looked around for a while for one. The ones that are cheap are the super thin aluminum that dent if you touch the side.

    If I was going to do this all over again...I think I would just spend the $$ and buy an already built kettle system. This process of getting the keg, finding the tools to cut off the top and drill the valve opening, then actually doing the cutting, then buying the bulkhead and valve...I am spending probably $100 on this stuff just to get it done, and 10x the aggravation

    This post was edited by BrodieMSU on 4/28/2011 at 3:48 PM

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  • I brewed a Fat Tire clone on Sunday night (or as I now call it... my Bin Laden death beer since I was brewing when the news broke).
    I used liquid yeast with a yeast starter for the first time. I started the wyeast smack pack on Friday night, it was blown up by Saturday morning. I made the starter on Saturday and brewed/pitched Sunday night into some very well aerated wort. SG = 1.052

    I rigged up a blow-off tube to my carboy, though the folks at the homebrew store recommended a 1" hose I found out later that better bottles have a slightly larger opening than glass carboys, so this didn't work because it wouldn't seal up the top of the carboy. I decided to hook up the siphon hose through the drilled opening in the carboy bung instead. I didn't really think I needed this, as I've always just used an airlock and not had problems, but figured better safe than sorry...

    The next morning I checked in on the beer. It was sending bubbles out of the end of the hose every second or two and a huge pack of foam at the top of the carboy. Fermentation seemed to be going pretty well, better than I've ever seen with an airlock. I checked on it again yesterday afternoon, about 20 hours after pitching and it is going even stronger, to the point where I am a little concerned that the whole thing might blow up. The foam and krausen is absolutely packed right up to the bung and a lot of foam is going through the blow off tube. This morning, still going strong with a constant stream of bubbles coming out. I had to put something on top of the hose to keep it weighed down in the bucket because it was moving around so much.

    Seriously, "vigorous fermentation" would be an understatement. I was fully expecting to be awoken last night to the sound of a beer explosion. Hopefully the smaller diameter siphon hose I'm using doesn't get clogged up, or I'll be finding a huge mess.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Thoughts on ramping fermentation temp for a Saison? Considering using a heating pad to try to get it up near 80.

    daggermouth