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How confident are you that we will beat UM?

  • RPMadMSU said...

    It's ranking is superior, but Michigan's D is not superior to ND's.

    Just like MSU ranking is superior to LSU's, but does anyone think MSU has the better defense?

    Comparing MSU defense to LSU as an anology to UM defense against ND is not very fair. If ND has a better defense than UM it would be negligible at best. LSU is ferocious and you just went too extreme with your comparison for it to be credible. But your a biased MSU fan so I understand.

    Braska11

  • msuferd said...

    MSU statistically has the #1 defense, but I don't think anybody here is claiming our defense is better than LSU or Bama. But they have shown that they are a really good defense.

    The way you are discounting ND's schedule (compared to UM) is just laughable though.

    Im not overly impressed with the ND schedule, they have not played any great offenses. Michigan and MSU are the best they played and lets be honest MSU has really struggled on the offensive line and running the ball. I guess im not as impressed with the ND schedule as most.

    Braska11

  • Don't think any of this matters. All it takes is a momentum change by scUM and they are in a game. Defense HAS to be lights out. Denard is fast. Cousins has to be mistake free all game. We could be beating them like NW all game and then.................

    They have a lighting attack that we need to be very, very aware of. I expect Borges to lull our D to sleep with some stuff they have used before, then unleash a bunch of new plays we have never seen......

    This post was edited by High Speed on 10/10/2011 at 2:17 PM

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    High Speed

  • High Speed said...

    I expect Borges to lull our D to sleep with some stuff they have used before, then unleash a bunch of new plays we have never seen......

    You don't think we won't do the exact same thing?

    "If they want to mock us, I'm telling them it's not over. It will never be over here. It's just starting." - Mark Dantonio, 2007

    Spartalufagus

  • Braska11 said...

    Comparing MSU defense to LSU as an anology to UM defense against ND is not very fair. If ND has a better defense than UM it would be negligible at best. LSU is ferocious and you just went too extreme with your comparison for it to be credible. But your a biased MSU fan so I understand.

    Kind of is...MSU has number 1 ranked D, but are not the best D due to who they played. LSU doesn't have the no. ranked D but may be the best due to who've they played.

    Again, stats...

    MSU's D gave up 275 yards to ND's on the road. Michigan's D gave up 516 to ND at home. That's the only common opponent. Those are facts.

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    RPMadMSU

  • Spartalufagus said...

    You don't think we won't do the exact same thing?

    Fuck no....MSU will have regressed during the bye week. M is the only team that practices really hard before big rivalry games. And just because M's offense is essentially identical to last year doesn't mean anything....Borges is a genius.

    TDot20273

  • Braska11 said...

    Im not overly impressed with the ND schedule, they have not played any great offenses.

    Notre Dame opponents offensive rankings:

    Air Force: 8th in the country
    USF: 10th in the country
    Michigan: 14th in the country
    Purdue: 50th in the country
    MSU: 61st in the country
    Pitt: 76th in the country

    Average: 36.5

    Michigan's opponents offensive rankings:
    WMU: 31st
    Notre Dame: 21st
    EMU: 104st
    SD St.: 63rd
    Minnesota: 110th
    Northwestern: 71st

    Average: 66.6

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    RPMadMSU

  • Average: 66.6

    Coincidence? I think not.

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    Btothejizer

  • Btothejizer said...

    Coincidence? I think not.

    To be fair it's 66.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666

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    RPMadMSU

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Calling Tanner out is fair game. He knows he generates heated posts and enjoys the back and forth.

    Saying anything about his wife and/or kids is bad form and Tanner is justified to get fired up about it. I've given tanner crap and he tosses crap right back at me . Its all in the game. He expects to get crap when he stirs the pot .

    Just keep wives out of dung tossing contests.

    ps I'm still at a 9 after seeing the umaa give up 23 points. They will face the first good defense on their schedule next Saturday at noon. After that the road doesn't get easier.

    What about mother-in-laws? I remember one time tanfan was posting on here drunk while watching his mother-in-law bending over at Christmas time or something. Its funny when a guy like that tries to act all up in arms about someone saying something about his wife. He certainly doesn't respect her. The guy is pitiful.

    HL Mencken94322

  • Spartytruth said...

    I feel that we should win. However, you just never know in this game. scum may not say it but they want this one more than anything.

    We could use a defensive score. I am surprised at how good scum has looked - they are tough and we better come with our A game. It's time to pull it all together cuz we are going to need it.

    You know a couple times when they were favored at home against us we came up big. This is a rivalry game they're better than last year We're better than them and would beat them 7 out of 10 with the current teams, but that doesn't mean I'm 70% confident we beat them in a one game winner take all.

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    DWags

  • Home crowd better be loud and be proud. Can not believe the smack I hear the umers sprouting.

    Spartans!! force the weasels back in their hole.

    northandwells

  • Tanfan said...

    Nevet gonna happen, fanboy pansy.

    Sub brah. smoke + 1

    DontHateBeHappy

  • Wow Bob I see you're really not worried.

    Big John Studd

  • RPMadMSU said...

    To be fair it's 66.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666

    repeating, of course

    MrDickFitswell

  • D.Wags said...

    You know a couple times when they were favored at home against us we came up big. This is a rivalry game they're better than last year We're better than them and would beat them 7 out of 10 with the current teams, but that doesn't mean I'm 70% confident we beat them in a one game winner take all.

    DR is a special talent - probably the most talented guy on the field Saturday. We can't let him beat us and I don't think we will.

    The questions lie with our offense stepping up and whether our special teams can hold serve.

    Spartytruth

  • RPMadMSU said...

    MSU's D gave up 275 yards to ND's on the road. Michigan's D gave up 516 to ND at home. That's the only common opponent. Those are facts.

    Here is another fact. scUm pulled out a win, we got hammered.

    southernspartan

  • MrDickFitswell said...

    repeating, of course

    +1 for Leroy Jenkins.

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    Rannulph Junuh

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Notre Dame opponents offensive rankings:

    Air Force: 8th in the country USF: 10th in the country Michigan: 14th in the country Purdue: 50th in the country MSU: 61st in the country Pitt: 76th in the country

    Average: 36.5

    Michigan's opponents offensive rankings: WMU: 31st Notre Dame: 21st EMU: 104st SD St.: 63rd Minnesota: 110th Northwestern: 71st

    Average: 66.6

    So you guys are convinced Air Force, USF, WMU and Purdue are better offenses than MSU and SDSU is equal to MSU?
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    This post was edited by Braska11 on 10/11/2011 at 9:02 AM

    Braska11

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Kind of is...MSU has number 1 ranked D, but are not the best D due to who they played. LSU doesn't have the no. ranked D but may be the best due to who've they played.

    Again, stats...

    MSU's D gave up 275 yards to ND's on the road. Michigan's D gave up 516 to ND at home. That's the only common opponent. Those are facts.

    Michigan won, MSU lost. Those are facts

    Braska11

  • Braska11 said...

    Michigan won, MSU lost. Those are facts

    Yawn. Let's see what happens Saturday. MSU has beaten scUM three straight. Until scUM wins again, they should just shut the f up.

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    Giant Moose

  • Giant Moose said...

    Yawn. Let's see what happens Saturday. MSU has beaten scUM three straight. Until scUM wins again, they should just shut the f up.

    I generally agree Moose, but the discussion was who was better between ND and UM defensively and he went into the weeds and brought MSU defense up for some reason??? I just responded.

    This post was edited by Braska11 on 10/11/2011 at 9:13 AM

    Braska11

  • Braska11 said...

    Michigan won, MSU lost. Those are facts

    Except that's not what we're discussing. We're talking about the overall Defensive performance of Michigan compared to the overall MSU defensive performance. I bring in ND because they are a common opponent. The only one thus far.

    And yes, I believe MSU has a better offense than SDSU, WMU, EMU, Minnesota and even Northwestern.

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    RPMadMSU

  • I have a feeling we will win by at least 2 touchdowns.

    bb011

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Except that's not what we're discussing. We're talking about the overall Defensive performance of Michigan compared to the overall MSU defensive performance. I bring in ND because they are a common opponent. The only one thus far.

    And yes, I believe MSU has a better offense than SDSU, WMU, EMU, Minnesota and even Northwestern.

    Dude, go back and re-read the thread, it was about UM defense compared to ND.

    Braska11