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Is this legal?

  • So I know someone who knows a prominent Big Ten, not MSU, athlete. Prominent athlete freely signs autographs for people, is a good guy.

    Said person acquired some autographed items to be sold at a charity auction to help a kid who suffered a tragic event. Money raised will offset medical bills, etc.

    Thoughts on this?

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  • Time for jailsexing

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  • Call Delaney at 1-800-MAD-HATER. Tell his secretary you're from scUM or OSU or he won't pick up.

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  • Do the items look like this?

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  • Sounds not illegal to me.

    Big Ten Referee

  • VenomousG.Duck said...

    So I know someone who knows a prominent Big Ten, not MSU, athlete. Prominent athlete freely signs autographs for people, is a good guy.

    Said person acquired some autographed items to be sold at a charity auction to help a kid who suffered a tragic event. Money raised will offset medical bills, etc.

    Thoughts on this?

    Did the athlete get paid?

    MindlessChaos

  • Big Ten Referee said...

    Sounds not illegal to me.

    I agree but he is still playing and the items are being sold for money. Now, he won't see a dime of it but still, I'm shocked he would do this, given the NCAA's rules.

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  • MindlessChaos said...

    Did the athlete get paid?

    Not for certain but 99% sure he didn't.

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  • VenomousG.Duck said...

    Not for certain but 99% sure he didn't.

    Well if the athlete didn't get paid then it's not an issue whatsoever. If he did then it might be.

    MindlessChaos

  • Steve Alford, charity calendar, reprimand.

    So, yeah, I imagine it's against the rules.

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  • MindlessChaos said...

    Well if the athlete didn't get paid then it's not an issue whatsoever. If he did then it might be.

    That's kinda what I thought. Tried to think, what if he signed something for someone and they sold it on ebay with no more connection to him. Same I suppose. Only this one he knew about the sale but the money was going for a good cause. Never heard of it coming from an active student-athlete.

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  • Bob in Houston said...

    Steve Alford, charity calendar, reprimand.

    So, yeah, I imagine it's against the rules.

    Apple Computers vs Orange Julius...

    Alford willingly took part in the calendar shoot.

    This student athlete is signing memorabilia. The student athlete has no control over anything the owner of the memorabilia does with it.

    If I were to buy a helmet, go to the August meet the team event and then sell it for charity at a silent auction, none of the student athletes that signed the helmet are liable for my actions.

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  • If it is Zack Novak, I hope his medical bills are less than $10.

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  • VargMan said...

    Apple Computers vs Orange Julius...

    Alford willingly took part in the calendar shoot.

    This student athlete is signing memorabilia. The student athlete has no control over anything the owner of the memorabilia does with it.

    If I were to buy a helmet, go to the August meet the team event and then sell it for charity at a silent auction, none of the student athletes that signed the helmet are liable for my actions.

    Sure but he willingly signed for this event.

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  • Big Ten Referee said...

    If it is Zack Novak, I hope his medical bills are less than $10.

    Nope, Leaders division. whistling

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  • Big Ten Referee said...

    If it is Zack Novak, I hope his medical bills are less than $10.

    That would require somebody to actually want his autograph... enough said.

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  • I would have to say legal. The athlete is not making any money(or getting tattoos) for the signing. I would think it would be similar to the Charity Golf Outings that College Athletes attend (see Mott Hospital and UM) and people pay money to go to. The Athletes are the draw for people to pay $$ for the charity.

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  • VenomousG.Duck said...

    Sure but he willingly signed for this event.

    Oh...I see. It does look like an Apples Computer vs Apple Ipad scenario...very similar, yet very different. Hmmm...

    Thanks for pointing that out to me. thumbsup

    tVargMan Prime

  • Let's be clear on a few things. Even if the athlete was selling it himself, it's still 'legal'; it's against NCAA rules, but that's not illegal. Raping children is against the law, but not against NCAA rules; whereas putting cream cheese on a recruit's bagel is against NCAA rules, but not the law.

    As for the NCAA, if the recruit doesn't know about it, of course it's permissible. Perfect example - the solider selling the UNC carrier jersey earlier this year. Now, if the NCAA could somehow prove the athlete knew the item would be sold, you could run into a problem; but that would be hard to do.

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  • VenomousG.Duck said...

    So I know someone who knows a prominent Big Ten, not MSU, athlete. Prominent athlete freely signs autographs for people, is a good guy.

    Said person acquired some autographed items to be sold at a charity auction to help a kid who suffered a tragic event. Money raised will offset medical bills, etc.

    Thoughts on this?

    There's no way this can be against NCAA rules. X player is not receiving any compensation, and it is for some charitable cause. Obviously, if there is some kickback, that wouldn't be allowed.

    Batesianmimicry

  • Are they raising money for medical marijuana to help fight his anxiety/glaucoma?

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