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Jamie Samuelsen picks Trey Burke over Mateen Cleaves..?

  • "this article made me chuckle. It is horrid, and an embarrassment to journalism"

    I like this comment

    Tiger v Gorilla

  • Larry Kazamias said...

    Heard this same crap this week in the cross talk between this dick and Wojo, . .

    Did Wojo buy into it?

    trash

  • trash said...

    Did Wojo buy into it?

    No, and mostly it was Jamie and Valenti. Jamie was saying Peterson was better than Cleaves, "history has smiled on Mateen", Cleaves couldn't score, etc.

    MV told him he's f-ing crazy.

    Larry Kazamias

  • Justinc882 said...

    Actually if I had to pick right now I'd probably take Burke. he's what 19? Cleaves is in his 30's. I bet he'd have issues trying to defend college kids in his 30's.

    I would still take Mo

    Spartan Vim

  • Burke is very good, but he is a shoot first point guard. Mateen was the floor general who got everyone where they needed to be and ran the offense. Mateen did not have to win his matchup for us to win. He would get the ball to someone who would win the matchup. Burke has to score and penetrate (in other words beat his man) to be effective. Mateen will win you more games.

    This post was edited by rodent on 3/9/2013 at 6:50 PM

    rodent

  • Here are my thoughts... To his point, Charlie Bell, Morris Peterson, AJ Granger, and Andre Hutson are all better at their position that anyone on UMs team currently. So at every other position MSU wins that matchup.

    So Burke is forced to take the team on his back when they need it. He doesn't have the confidence to rely on anyone else. So when a game needs to be taken over, Burke feels that he needs to take it over.

    Mateen is as loyal and confident as it comes, and could give two flying "you know whats" who brought them back. Watch the 2000 championship game again. The more I watch that game, the more I realize how those players performed out of their mind. AJ being the best. He had all the confidence in the world because he not only had prepared the right way and worked his ass off, but because of that he knew that the team (and Mateen) had all the confidence in him.

    I had the pleasure of working out in the Duffy weight room with the basketball team in the summer of 1999. Mateen was not only the director on the court, but a leader and motivator off of it. The number of times I saw him in the weight room push people to be more than they could be is not countable. I remember one time when Charlie Bell was sitting against a wall with sand bags on his lap. He was getting to the point of muscle failure. Everytime he yelled, Mateen threw another sand bag on him saying that yelling indicated weakness and knew that Charlie was better than that.

    So if you go based on "on court" play, perhaps you would start an team with Burke. Especially if it was a one game choice. I have no problem with Jamie having the opionion he does. If he were starting a team to play one game, perhaps you could make the choice of Burke over Mateen.

    However if you were to choose one player to build a program, there is simply no choice at all. If Mateen was on Michigans team, Hardaway would not resort to chucking like he still does at times and Big Dog II would be an All American. Burke has the scoring ability to take a team on his back. Mateen had the ability to each and every single day make sure that the people around him had the ability to insure that it never came down to that.

    Burke = "Fine, if you wont do it, I will" Mateen = "F you! We are in this together, every single moment we are all working together to make sure we carry each other"

    To me, Mateens approach is the best because if Burke is off, they struggle. If Mateen was off, he had the confidence to rely on someone else.

    Sparty2QP

  • Clyde Frog said...

    http://www.freep.com/article/20130309/SPORTS08/130308116/michigan-trey-burke-msu-mateen-cleaves

    I really don't understand 97.1. Do they try and hire completely incompetent people or what?

    A total horsesh** article shamelessly pandering to the metro-Detroit Walvies. The Blue Wall remains strong at the Freep.

    sparty68

  • Dr Draymond

  • ...and today we witnessed the difference between Burke and Mateen.

    Bottom line, Mateen was a winner. He could "Spartan Will" victories.

    mydogsparty

  • How could anyone pick Trey Choke over Mateen.... Obviously the D media bias in full effect.

    Sprtan4Ever

  • Clyde Frog said...

    http://www.freep.com/article/20130309/SPORTS08/130308116/michigan-trey-burke-msu-mateen-cleaves

    I really don't understand 97.1. Do they try and hire completely incompetent people or what?

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  • Clyde Frog said...

    http://www.freep.com/article/20130309/SPORTS08/130308116/michigan-trey-burke-msu-mateen-cleaves

    I really don't understand 97.1. Do they try and hire completely incompetent people or what?

    Jamie went to NWU. He is used to dudes that never won anything.

    LoneWolfSparty

  • Green Tonic21351 said...

    Look, I respect what Burke has done to this point. There's no question he was the catalyst behind most of their wins this year. And yes, I won't debate that he carried his team on his back in their last 2 games and deserves a lot of credit. But they're still JUST conference games. HUGE difference between doing that in one year, compared to a player that did it for 3 fucking years, including the NCAA Tournament. Burke wills his team to victory against fucking Purdue?

    By his logic, Talor Battle > Trey Burke. Ignore the idiot.

    SpartanInNH

  • Sprtan4Ever said...

    How could anyone pick Trey Choke over Mateen.... Obviously the D media bias in full effect.

    These are the same people who will tell you that Michigan basketball has "caught" Michigan State..

    They just don't want to admit that MSU is better at something, so they won't. Pretty cut and dry. Evidence the last 20 or so years points to Michigan basketball fans actually not caring about winning basketball games. They care about looking cool in black socks, how many stars McGary had and how pretty Burke's crossover looks. Losing to MAC teams in the first round is an afterthought to these people.

    Lunchables

  • Good comments

    The Eagle

  • With scUM's loss today this article is even better.

    Cleaves' shits are better than Trey Burke.

    PCL

  • pt pyle22912 said...

    Izzo's gang no longer Green Giant v2.0??

    Especially after the turd um just dropped.

    Keego Kid

  • That's why Samuelson is a loser. Difference between the two players is that Cleaves was tough and made clutch plays. Burke isn't and didn't.

    "I think the world is run by C students" Al Mcguire

    rob

  • rob said...

    That's why Samuelson is a loser. Difference between the two players is that Cleaves was tough and made clutch plays. Burke isn't and didn't.

    +1

    mydogsparty

  • Jamie Samulson was sucking Gregg Henson's cock for years when they had a radio show together. Apparently the Never-Went-To-scUM jizz that comes out of Henson has finally warped Jamie's brain into a Walverine. Nice going Jamie, you are a Blue Wall fucktard, and a power bottom for Gregg Henson.

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    SpartanNachos

  • SpartanNachos said...

    Jamie Samulson was sucking Gregg Henson's cock for years when they had a radio show together. Apparently the Never-Went-To-scUM jizz that comes out of Henson has finally warped Jamie's brain into a Walverine. Nice going Jamie, you are a Blue Wall fucktard, and a power bottom for Gregg Henson.

    Isn't Jamie's wife a wolvie?

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    Floyd Robertson

  • Floyd Robertson said...

    Isn't Jamie's wife a wolvie?

    She is a Spartan

    Iceman3MSU

  • How many times did Burke pass the ball in the last 5 minutes.....once, twice.....all eyes on me.

    WBill19542

  • Iceman3MSU said...

    She is a Spartan

    Honestly couldn't remember as she left wxyz years ago an gave up listening to him years before that.

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