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Kids these days are soft

  • MiamiSpartan said...

    Not to quote my own post, but it occurred to me that the flip side of the argument, is that parents being more protective keeps abduction numbers down. So maybe number if incidents isn't the best measure.

    Why does it even matter? The point is that there are still sick fucks out there

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  • Denim Chicken said...

    Wanna live in East Lansing this summer? I'm trying to find a subleaser.

    Too far of a drive from work.

    Dendrobates

  • Dendrobates said...

    Not even close. Google my screen name.

    I don't want to.

    bozorules

  • Punisher99 said...

    Why does it even matter? The point is that there are still sick fucks out there

    Translation: protect your kids from assholes like me. Got it.

    bozorules

  • MiamiSpartan said...

    Got any studies/evidence to show that there are no more abductions now than 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago?

    Maybe it is just as common, and I'm sure if you ever have a kid abducted and raped, you'll say, "Well, that's ok, cause it happened in the past. At least my kid isnt soft."

    My daughter doesn't have an option other than to be driven to school (private school), so its not like I'm one of the parents described in the OP. But I understand it. Hell, we used to take off on our bikes and our parents wouldn't know where we went and they wouldn't see us for hours. You'd be stupud to let your kids do that today.

    I read somewhere that crime is way down compared to 1975 but crime perception has gone through the roof. So there is no real reason to be so over protective as a lot of parents are.

    UMWolverines

  • UMWolverines said...

    I read somewhere that crime is way down compared to 1975 but crime perception has gone through the roof. So there is no real reason to be so over protective as a lot of parents are.

    Any sort of link at all on this would be awesome.

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  • bozorules said...

    Translation: protect your kids from assholes like me. Got it.

    Lol. You are such an obsessed loser it's incredible.

    Go make another username since your first was about a 40 rating. What a dork

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  • Dicks Fake Eye20793 said...

    How can you bemoan kids not walking when it's the parents who are coddling them.

    I will say this, it's surprising how protective you become as a parent. Any risk to your kids is too much risk. One small example. My daughter was begging me to drive her to the store. I told her "if you want to go to the store so bad, ride your bike" (3 miles one way, hilly terrain)

    She did, (cool! or so I thought...) The whole way there and back she got cat-calls, etc. from idiots driving by. Guess what? That's the last time she's ridden her bike to the store.

    Stuff happens...can't just not let her ride her bike because of people cat calling out the window.

    UMWolverines

  • UMWolverines said...

    I read somewhere that crime is way down compared to 1975 but crime perception has gone through the roof. So there is no real reason to be so over protective as a lot of parents are.

    He's right. I think NPR did a week long series on this on one of their programs. They were talking about how PBS isn't allowed to show old episodes of Seseme street because they had stuff like kids playing in sewers. I thought that was funny.

    But the point was that kids today are in fact MUCH safer, we all are. But the 24 hour news cycle and culture of fear that we live in has us way over anxious.

    Ok - I did some googling - if you're actually interested in this subject, the woman who was on NPR can be found by looking up "Free Range Kids" - she quotes the Department of Justice crime rates and all that.

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  • CincySpartan said...

    The U.S. Department of Justice reports:

    797,500 children (younger than 18) were reported missing in a one-year period of time studied resulting in an average of 2,185 children being reported missing each day.

    203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.

    58,200 children were the victims of non-family abductions.

    115 children were the victims of “stereotypical” kidnapping. (These crimes involve someone the child does not know or someone of slight acquaintance, who holds the child overnight, transports the child 50 miles or more, kills the child, demands ransom, or intends to keep the child permanently.)

    One a side note, according to the NWS, the U.S. averages 300 injuries and 66 deaths per year from lightning strikes.

    I totally get the statistics. However, we know the grandparent of one of those 115 last year (that did not end well). Our oldest no longer rides her bike to school now because of this. I hate it, but when it's your kid, no probability is too small.

    Johnny Alpamayo

  • Punisher99 said...

    Lol. You are such an obsessed loser it's incredible.

    Go make another username since your first was about a 40 rating. What a dork

    Hi pot, meet kettle. And I am not going back to spartypants.

    bozorules

  • Denim Chicken said...

    You see a lot of kids that just love it when their mom does that? I doubt it.

    Listen, if I gotta wait for the bus, I'm not gonna complain if my mom wants me to sit in the car with her for a few minutes to stay out of the cold. I love spending time with my mom. Always have. If that makes me soft, so be it. Sorry your parents didn't love you.

    Yep, it makes you soft. The fact that you would sit in a car instead of being social with the other kids at the stop says you have other issues as well.

    And I am sorry that you need to hold onto every moment with your mom in order to feel loved. Ya see, I never had any doubts which is why I became independent and actually had desires other than your Oedipal ones.

    CincySpartan

  • It's safer.

    forevergreen216

  • UMWolverines said...

    Stuff happens...can't just not let her ride her bike because of people cat calling out the window.

    Trust me, I'm not some wimp. But if something happened to my daughter because I made her ride her bike somewhere, I'd be an emotional basket case. Likely suicidal. I could not risk it.

    Dicks Fake Eye20793 ●

  • Watch Out Pylon said...

    This guy got to chill in mom's mini van while waiting for the bus. Probably made fun of the kids that had to wait outside too.

    I was jealous of those kids ...
    Lucky fuckers

    lolo

  • We had one of those creeper looking white cargo vans cruising our sub a couple years ago. Freaked me out a little bit, figured it was some Meth heads looking to break into houses, but, you never know. I put my kids on high alert though.

    Neighbors have 5 kids who constantly roam the hood day and night. One of the boys (10) and one of the girls (11) stopped by my house one afternoon to give me some updates on said creeper van. The boy says " im ready if someone trys to grab me " he then reaches in his pocket and pulls out a roll of duck tape, the girls replies " me too " and she pulls out a pair of handcuffs.

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    The Pork Pistol

  • Dicks Fake Eye20793 said...

    Trust me, I'm not some wimp. But if something happened to my daughter because I made her ride her bike somewhere, I'd be an emotional basket case. Likely suicidal. I could not risk it.

    I guess I can see where you're coming from since I'm not a parent yet and won't be for a while, but when I managed to break an arm twice in bike related accidents two years apart almost exactly (both which were not my fault) it's not like my parents told me I couldn't ride my bike any more. Would you say it's diffent because she's a girl?

    We used to ride our bikes all over hell when I was in junior high. We would ride on the shoulder of the main road around here to the park to go play basketball which was about a 4 mile ride. Our parents just told us to be careful and to call them every few hours. This was only 7 years ago by the way. Junior High wasn't exacty fun, but it was right before the facebook, twitter, and smartphone craze started which I think has made everything even worse.

    UMWolverines

  • The Pork Pistol said...

    The boy says " im ready if someone trys to grab me " he then reaches in his pocket and pulls out a roll of duck tape, the girls replies " me too " and she pulls out a pair of handcuffs.

    Your neighbor's kids are into sodomy I think

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

    Cosmo_Kramer

  • Nommad said...

    Besides, for elementary school kids, you can't be too safe these days. There's a lot of fkcking pyschos out there.

    There are the same amount of psychos as there has always been, the only difference is today there is more Fox News, etc.

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  • Helicopter parents think they are doing no harm to their child because at least they are keeping their kid "safe." However it is critical in a child's development that they are allowed to make decisions and evaluate risk on their own. As they age they should be allowed to determine progressively more risk. Starting with monkey bars and moving up to driving cars and moving out. If they don't learn these skills early it is likely to lead personality issues as they age. How many great leaders grew up with helicopter parents?

    Walking to the bus stop is a great example of an extremely small risk that kids should be allowed to handle on their own.

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  • The crime rate today is equal to what it was back in 1970. In the ’70s and ’80s, crime was climbing. It peaked around 1993, and since then it’s been going down.

    http://www.salon.com/2009/05/04/free_range_kids/

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  • Ham Porter said...

    I know this has been discussed at length, but I needed a good rant.

    In my subdivision, about 50% of the parents drive their kids to the bus stop (at the entrance of the sub) and let them wait in the car til the bus gets there. The parents then all do a u-turn in the road and drive back to their homes. It angers me to no end. Not only are they turning their kids into massive vaginas, but I also have to sit there and watch their u-turn spectacle when I'm trying to go to work. Kids are soft these days. I'm not some grizzled WW2 vet that thinks his generation was the second coming of christ either. I am 27 and I froze my ass off at the bus stop or walked to the damn school. End of rant.

    So lemme get this straight.....

    You are bitching because you have to watch someone sit in a car AND you have to watch someone do U-turns? And that is what angers you?

    Think I found the pussification in your story, but it's not were you thought it was.....

    "Leave the gun.....take the cannoli" "It's not your job to be as confused as Nigel."

    Son of Sparta

  • Sparts said...

    The crime rate today is equal to what it was back in 1970. In the ’70s and ’80s, crime was climbing. It peaked around 1993, and since then it’s been going down.

    http://www.salon.com/2009/05/04/free_range_kids/

    Is the crime rate declining because society is "safer" or because of less opportunities?

    18-year-old to be tried in death of 10-year-old Colorado girl - CNN.com

    Austin Reed Sigg, 18, must face trial on 18 of 20 counts related to the Colorado murder of 10-year-old Jessica Ridgeway and an attack on a jogger last year.

    www.cnn.com

    MSU Lifer

  • MSU Lifer said...

    Is the crime rate declining because society is "safer" or because of less opportunities?

    crime rate is declining because of Roe vs Wade. fewer fatherless hooligans.

    nc2el

  • nc2el said...

    crime rate is declining because of Roe vs Wade. fewer fatherless hooligans.

    Oh dear..

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