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Korie Lucious or Brandon Wood

  • I'd rather take the guy who is a good teammate and actually feeds the post without turning it over

    dimambr3

  • Giant Moose said...

    Lucious produced one of the most memorable moments in Spartan history. Some of you are crazy with the hate you have for him now. He was young and messed up. It happens.

    Agree. I also wonder how good korie would be if he had stayed out of trouble and was still here. The kid was fearless and had a lot of talent.

    duffy munn

  • I wonder how this team would fare with Roe, Luscious, and Sherman

    GuiltyPleasure

  • Brandon Wood...provided he responds positively to Coach Izzo's challenge to rebound more like Jason Richardson.

    Big John Studd

  • Lucious was a very underrated PG. He got a lot of flack for his random wild passes, but he was a way better distributor than Lucas. His 3-point shooting was very erratic, when it was on I feel like he could shut a game down by himself.

    Bottom line is this: Lucious was 2 for 3 getting to Final Fours, and he helped lead the Spartans to the 2nd one. Season 3 was a complete crash and burn. If we get to the final four this year, then Wood edges out Lucious. Wood is going to be a huge part of this season. It's hard to marginalize Lucious's contributions that much if we don't reach a final four this year.

    Batesianmimicry

  • dimambr3 said...

    I'd rather take the guy who is a good teammate

    I like Wood don't get me wrong, but didn't he leave his teammates at Valpo? I get that we are supposed to like the guy who is currently a Spartan more but Lucious is a lot better player than some of you give him credit for. I wish he didn't screw up and was still here.

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    Giant Moose

  • Spyke said...

    However, I'd still like to see Wood's game when he's facing Big Ten teams for the second time in the season before definitively saying he's better than Lucious.

    This. I'd like to see him even the first time against Big Ten teams before calling him better than Korie. So far, Wood has played a little better than Lucious wood have. Hope it continues into conference play.

    Spartan Punk

  • Lucious has his place in Spartan lore no doubt, but give me Wood. By the way Trice is everything I had hoped Lucious was coming in as a freshman.

    This post was edited by Cthulhu on 12/20/2011 at 1:57 PM

    Cthulhu

  • Moose Orgsky said...

    Well, for me it depends on whether you're talking about skill sets alone or the whole package. If it's just skill sets, I think we'd be better off with another experienced point guard. We would not have to rely on Appling to grow into an unfamiliar position, but could use him from time to time in the PG rotation. If either Trice or Appling goes down with an injury, we'll be in bad shape at the point. So if we're talking skill sets, I'd go with Lucious.

    But in reality we could not get just the skill sets, From what I've read, it seems that Lucious was also a disruptive force in team chemistry. This year's team has so far shown far better chemistry, and it's making a huge difference. Wood apparently contributes to it (or at least isn't wrecking it), so taking the whole package, I think I pick Wood. But I really hope Trice and Appllng don't get hurt.

    I think this year we may have benefited more from having Appling play the 2 and let Lucious and Trice man the 1 but in the long run, Appling playing and learning the PG position will be huge for us. This paves the way for an Appling / Harris starting backcourt next year. If Appling hadn't learned the position, they'd be fighting it out for playing time at the 2.

    UsedToBeBrad

  • GuiltyPleasure said...

    I wonder how this team would fare with Roe, Luscious, and Sherman

    Of course, we all wish Roe was playing this year but.

    Would you rather have:

    Korie Lucious for this year and Garrick Sherman this year and next year

    or

    Brandon Wood this year and Gary Harris next year (and maybe more)?

    That's the tradeoff that actually occurred and I'd say we came out on top with that transaction.

    UsedToBeBrad

  • Lucious= sports car, higher top speed, way more maintenance.

    Wood= Volvo wagon, reliable, effecient, maintenance free.

    Mudjin harbor

  • Wood is playing more like Kalin than Korie, imo. Travis Trice seems to have stepped into Lucious's role and while he hasn't proven he's better by a long shot he's doing quite well.

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    fishrose

  • On the Court Korie lucious.... Off the court Brandon Wood.

    Korie was a proven scorer as well. Yes he would probably have 5-6 T-O's a game but at the same time he would make some great plays for us.

    Wood hasn't played against pressure in the Big ten season/ Tournament time. If the Spartans make it the Elite 8 than ill give Wood more credit but right now I would take lucious

    ozzieman30

  • no

    Hey OP, they both would be playing if they were both here. Two different positions. The guy who doesn't play is Trice. He most likely gets redshirted. Surprise, surprise, he's needed to play, and he looks to be special.
    Great thread.coffee

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Clemenza on 12/20/2011 at 2:27 PM

    UM, Green Bay and Chicago teams all have one thing in common: They all suck

    Clemenza

  • ozzieman30 said...

    On the Court Korie lucious.... Off the court Brandon Wood.

    Korie was a proven scorer as well. Yes he would probably have 5-6 T-O's a game but at the same time he would make some great plays for us.

    Wood hasn't played against pressure in the Big ten season/ Tournament time. If the Spartans make it the Elite 8 than ill give Wood more credit but right now I would take lucious

    Proven scorer? He averaged what, 5 or 6 ppg. While shooting a low %. Everyone acts like Lucious carried us to the two final 4s, the first run, he barely played or contributed to. The second, he hit a big shot versus MD yes, but we were up by about 15, before Lucas went down, and when Lucious came in to run the point, Maryland started killing us. He played OK against NIU, but how tough of a game was that really. Then are other tough game in the run, was vs. Tenn, where he wasn't very good. Korie Lucious is a back-up PG, that's it. I'd much rather have Wood, the better scorer, shooter, DEFENDER, and rebounder.

    jh1spartanfan

  • Mudjin harbor said...

    Lucious= sports car, higher top speed, way more maintenance.

    Wood= Volvo wagon, reliable, effecient, maintenance free.

    Good analogy!!

    smile_msu

    Cleavage2

  • jh1spartanfan said...

    Proven scorer? He averaged what, 5 or 6 ppg. While shooting a low %. Everyone acts like Lucious carried us to the two final 4s, the first run, he barely played or contributed to. The second, he hit a big shot versus MD yes, but we were up by about 15, before Lucas went down, and when Lucious came in to run the point, Maryland started killing us. He played OK against NIU, but how tough of a game was that really. Then are other tough game in the run, was vs. Tenn, where he wasn't very good. Korie Lucious is a back-up PG, that's it. I'd much rather have Wood, the better scorer, shooter, DEFENDER, and rebounder.

    ........and Wood has proven this ........when exactly?
    Also a bit harsh on Korie, don't ya think? He adequately filled in for Lucas and took us within 2 pts of a championship. That DOES MEAN SOMETHING. Last year, he was a scab on a prostitutes' labia.....and probably the description you posted. But to say he wasn't instrumental or 'very good' in leading the offense is pretty sad.

    UM, Green Bay and Chicago teams all have one thing in common: They all suck

    Clemenza

  • Korie Lucious was a blown call (the Butler foul on Day Day) away from taking us to a National Championship game, which I think we would've won (we were better than Duke).

    Right now, I'd say Korie was the better player (of course, Wood could prove me wrong)... but Korie's dismissal has also allowed for Trice's development, and I think Travis will end up doing some seriously BIG things at MSU.

    This post was edited by arfabe16 on 12/20/2011 at 2:37 PM

    arfabe16

  • Mudjin harbor said...

    Lucious= sports car, higher top speed, way more maintenance.

    Wood= Volvo wagon, reliable, effecient, maintenance free.

    Like it.

    We know what we're getting with Brandon. Korie was sometimes a defensive liability against taller teams because of his size, but he was ice cold on nights that he got going.

    Count me in to the crowd that likes the coolness of Wood over the fire of Lucious.

    Royal

  • Just wait till big ten season..... you will see

    ozzieman30

  • ozzieman30 said...

    On the Court Korie lucious.... Off the court Brandon Wood.

    Korie was a proven scorer as well. Yes he would probably have 5-6 T-O's a game but at the same time he would make some great plays for us.

    Wood hasn't played against pressure in the Big ten season/ Tournament time. If the Spartans make it the Elite 8 than ill give Wood more credit but right now I would take lucious

    One good thing is that Wood is stepping into a good situation - if he was our scoring machine, then i'd be worried about his lack of high-pressure games. If he has an off night, we know Appling, Trice, and Dawson can probably carry the backcourt for a full game.

    Royal

  • jh1spartanfan said...

    Proven scorer? He averaged what, 5 or 6 ppg. While shooting a low %. Everyone acts like Lucious carried us to the two final 4s, the first run, he barely played or contributed to. The second, he hit a big shot versus MD yes, but we were up by about 15, before Lucas went down, and when Lucious came in to run the point, Maryland started killing us. He played OK against NIU, but how tough of a game was that really. Then are other tough game in the run, was vs. Tenn, where he wasn't very good. Korie Lucious is a back-up PG, that's it. I'd much rather have Wood, the better scorer, shooter, DEFENDER, and rebounder.

    THIS.

    Everyone seems to forget how crummy a shooter Korie IS. Dude had a 34% career shooting percentage at State, and it got worse every year (37, 34, 31). That sucks. Sorry.

    Nommad

  • Wood !

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    Red Lobster Management

    Banned 12/30/2010 - 1/7/2011 (for not believing in the power of prayer)

    Hitch 22

  • Clemenza said...

    ........and Wood has proven this ........when exactly? Also a bit harsh on Korie, don't ya think? He adequately filled in for Lucas and took us within 2 pts of a championship. That DOES MEAN SOMETHING. Last year, he was a scab on a prostitutes' labia.....and probably the description you posted. But to say he wasn't instrumental or 'very good' in leading the offense is pretty sad.

    Way to take things out of context. Here's what I said:
    -He didn't really contribute to the first final 4 run. (He averaged under 10 minutes and about 3 ppg during the run)
    -I said he wasn't very good in the game against TENN. (He was 2-9 (1-7 3 pt) with 5 TOs)
    -He's really just a back-up PG.
    -Wood is a better scorer, shooter, defender, and rebounder.

    I don't think any of that is very harsh or inaccurate.

    jh1spartanfan

  • jh1spartanfan said...

    Way to take things out of context. Here's what I said: -He didn't really contribute to the first final 4 run. (He averaged under 10 minutes and about 3 ppg during the run) -I said he wasn't very good in the game against TENN. (He was 2-9 (1-7 3 pt) with 5 TOs) -He's really just a back-up PG. -Wood is a better scorer, shooter, defender, and rebounder.

    I don't think any of that is very harsh or inaccurate.

    Your first point is unfair. Korie was HUGE in getting us a lead at the end of the 1st half vs. UConn. He single-handedly turned the game around in our favor. He came in and scored two 3's and then got fouled on another 3, all in a span of about 5 minutes.

    arfabe16