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Mackinac Bridge Accident in 1989

  • PRStoetzer said...

    To you pussies that can't handle driving over the bridge, the Mackinac Bridge Authority will drive your car across for you.

    My buddies and I loved to dress up as Bridge Authority workers and drive the nervous Nellies across the bridge. The whole way across I would stare directly at the passengers without looking out the windshield and tell them stories of all the folks that had gone over the rails.

    Man those were good times.

    stlspartan

  • Vegas Vic said...

    Don't drive on the inside lanes where the grates are located. Problem solved.

    I feel like every time I drive across, the outside lane is closed due to painting/maintenance, so all traffic is forced onto the lane with the grates.

    Dr Draymond

  • SeeGreen said...

    I have driven across it many times, but it got scary for me a few years ago on a family vacation. We are tooling along and the kids were enjoying it. Then, when we got to the grating, I don't know what it was, but I can only guess it was how my tire tread interacted with the grate and speed I was traveling, it felt like I was on ice. The wife threw a nervous glance my way because she felt it too. I white knuckled it the rest of the way, and we immediately stopped on the other side for a pastie. Nothing more calming than a pastie.

    Oh, and this is a rare photo of that accident the OP wrote about.

    Took a trip out west 20 years ago on a motorcycle with some friends...decided to ride US-2 West..so we headed north and planned to pick up 2 in the UP...got to the bridge and started to cross...at the time work was being done on the right hand lanes...only the middle lanes were open..well to make a short story long...you haven't crossed Big Mac until you've done it on a motorcycle riding over the grates

    Contrarian

  • stlspartan said...

    My buddies and I loved to dress up as Bridge Authority workers and drive the nervous Nellies across the bridge. The whole way across I would stare directly at the passengers without looking out the windshield and tell them stories of all the folks that had gone over the rails.

    Man those were good times.

    Not sure if serious? If true that is hilarious but terrible/creepy

    Serenity

  • I've sailed under the bridge more than I have drove over it.

    I was like 13 when the Yugo went off the bridge and it was a pretty fascinating story among my fellow 13 year olds in SE Michigan. Some aspects of that story got embellished over the years (they never found the car, the car was blown off the bridge without touching a thing, or the car was hanging off the side of the bridge and fell before the woman could get out, etc), but reading through those reports, the way I remember it is surprisingly close to what actually happened.

    Not sure what is up with the catfight in this thread though.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    I've sailed under the bridge more than I have drove over it.

    I was like 13 when the Yugo went off the bridge and it was a pretty fascinating story among my fellow 13 year olds in SE Michigan. Some aspects of that story got embellished over the years (they never found the car, the car was blown off the bridge without touching a thing, or the car was hanging off the side of the bridge and fell before the woman could get out, etc), but reading through those reports, the way I remember it is surprisingly close to what actually happened.

    Not sure what is up with the catfight in this thread though.


    According to wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinaw_Bridge

    "On September 22, 1989, Leslie Ann Pluhar died when her 1987 Yugo plunged over the 36-inch-high (91 cm) railing . A combination of high winds and excessive speed was initially blamed.[17] Later investigation showed the driver had stopped her car over the open steel grating on the bridge's span. A gust of wind through the grating blew her vehicle off the bridge."

    She was probably scared already because of the high winds but stopping backfired horribly on her.

    Serenity

  • I remember her. She was a waitress at Foxy's in Troy. My family ate there all the time. My dad used to make fun of her Yugo. I was only 12 but I remember she was cute and very nice.

    Can I get a "cool story bro?"

    spartan1998

  • spartan1998 said...

    I remember her. She was a waitress at Foxy's in Troy. My family ate there all the time. My dad used to make fun of her Yugo. I was only 12 but I remember she was cute and very nice.

    Can I get a "cool story bro?"

    Did your dad put it in her ass?

    Posting member of tRCMB since 1997. It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Spartan!!!!

    Raytooth Morgan

  • stlspartan said...

    My buddies and I loved to dress up as Bridge Authority workers and drive the nervous Nellies across the bridge. The whole way across I would stare directly at the passengers without looking out the windshield and tell them stories of all the folks that had gone over the rails.

    Man those were good times.

    Where did you get the waiver paperwork (which the vehicle owner signs, stating that the vehicle is insured and not stolen) that all Bridge Authority drivers must turn in?

    Vegas Vic

  • spartan1998 said...

    I remember her. She was a waitress at Foxy's in Troy. My family ate there all the time. My dad used to make fun of her Yugo. I was only 12 but I remember she was cute and very nice.

    Can I get a "cool story bro?"

    crazy +1

    Serenity

  • When this license plate style came out several people called it the "oil slick plate" in homage to the little Yugo that went over the edge.

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  • Serenity said...

    According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackinaw_Bridge

    "On September 22, 1989, Leslie Ann Pluhar died when her 1987 Yugo plunged over the 36-inch-high (91 cm) railing . A combination of high winds and excessive speed was initially blamed.[17] Later investigation showed the driver had stopped her car over the open steel grating on the bridge's span. A gust of wind through the grating blew her vehicle off the bridge."

    She was probably scared already because of the high winds but stopping backfired horribly on her.

    According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zastava_Koral

    "In 1989, 31-year-old Leslie Ann Pluhar, driving a 1987 Yugo over the Mackinac Bridge in Michigan, died when her Yugo went over the bridge's 36-inch (910 mm) railing during 50 mph (80 km/h) winds. The incident was widely publicized, with the make of car prominently identified. Many retellings claimed that the car was physically lifted and blown off the bridge.[12][13] However, a lawsuit by the family of the victim made no such claim, but proposed that the wind contributed to a loss of control that ended with the car going off the bridge. Expert testimony disputed whether the winds were a major factor. Another proposed explanation is that a collision with a guardrail on the bridge's median "launched" the car onto the opposite guardrail.[14]"

    Think about the physics involved with lifting a stopped 1800lb-2100lb (plus driver) car up and over a 36" high rail. Unless the winds were like 200+mph, I just don't see how this is plausible.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    Think about the physics involved with lifting a stopped 1800lb-2100lb (plus driver) car up and over a 36" high rail. Unless the winds were like 200+mph, I just don't see how this is plausible.

    I don't either. The momentum of the car HAD to be a contributing factor to the car making it over the rail.

    Motown Spartan

  • Vegas Vic said...

    Where did you get the waiver paperwork (which the vehicle owner signs, stating that the vehicle is insured and not stolen) that all Bridge Authority drivers must turn in?

    Sounds like SOMEONE has had their car driven across for them...lol

    Contrarian

  • Motown Spartan said...

    I don't either. The momentum of the car HAD to be a contributing factor to the car making it over the rail.

    but that shouldn't be construed automatically as she was speeding like many have said. If I had to guess the speeding thing likely started as a defense of the bridge design by the state so that their little gem of a bridge wouldn't be thought of as unsafe. In other words they maybe were trying to paint the picture that the driver was being unsafe so that the regular person wouldn't be scared.

    It really could be either way but to me both scenarios are plausible. Unless there is some really damning evidence but i find it hard to believe that it exists since no one knows exactly how strong a wind gust hit her car.

    Serenity

  • Contrarian said...

    Sounds like SOMEONE has had their car driven across for them...lol

    lol

    AMwood

  • Serenity said...

    but that shouldn't be construed automatically as she was speeding like many have said. If I had to guess the speeding thing likely started as a defense of the bridge design by the state so that their little gem of a bridge wouldn't be thought of as unsafe. In other words they maybe were trying to paint the picture that the driver was being unsafe so that the regular person wouldn't be scared.

    It really could be either way but to me both scenarios are plausible. Unless there is some really damning evidence but i find it hard to believe that it exists since no one knows exactly how strong a wind gust hit her car.

    speeding and driving too fast for the conditions are too different things. by saying that excessive speed was a contributing factor doesn't mean she was going 70. it could mean that she was going 35, but on that night, in that car, under those conditions, 35 may have been too fast to control that car.

    Motown Spartan

  • Motown Spartan said...

    speeding and driving too fast for the conditions are too different things. by saying that excessive speed was a contributing factor doesn't mean she was going 70. it could mean that she was going 35, but on that night, in that car, under those conditions, 35 may have been too fast to control that car.

    True, but I state again no one knows exactly how strong that wind was. Strong wind can be a pretty random occurrence, hence the term "gust".

    Serenity

  • Serenity said...

    True, but I state again no one knows exactly how strong that wind was. Strong wind can be a pretty random occurrence, hence the term "gust".

    Interesting link about how much wind is required to blow a car over:

    Can Cars Be Turned Over in Hurricane Winds?

    View the latest entry in The Weather Channel Blog to stay current and informed on weather events and opinions from our meteorologists and personalities.

    www.weather.com

    Phil McCrackin

  • If she was on a conveyor belt, would she have still gotten lift off?

    spartan1998

  • Serenity said...

    True, but I state again no one knows exactly how strong that wind was. Strong wind can be a pretty random occurrence, hence the term "gust".

    does "gust" mean randum?

    Spartytruth

  • Contrarian said...

    Sounds like SOMEONE has had their car driven across for them...lol

    No, I've driven across it dozens of times in all kinds of weather (even under wind advisories) and have walked across it, but this information is available on the interwebs.

    Vegas Vic

  • Vegas Vic said...

    No, I've driven across it dozens of times in all kinds of weather (even under wind advisories) and have walked across it, but this information is available on the interwebs.

    +1.....you are a good sport VV

    Contrarian

  • Spartytruth said...

    does "gust" mean randum?

    no, but it conveys a sense of intermittent occurrences that might be construed as random (or unpredictable) to a person.

    This post was edited by Serenity on 3/27/2012 at 11:41 AM

    Serenity

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    Interesting link about how much wind is required to blow a car over:

    I believe that article is about the force needed to flip a car that is sitting still. It takes a lot less to flip a car that is moving, and even less if you're driving over a grate that allows the wind to come full speed up from underneath the car(even beyond full speed as some of it is funneled through the grate).

    Besides I always had the impression that the car was blown sideways (but still upright) until hit the railing, and the momentum carried it over.

    MiamiSpartan