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Maryland to the B1G, press conference on BTN at 2:30pm

  • DCSpartan said...

    Well, assuming Maryland and Rutgers are in, only a few schools (not including the west coast) are in the AAU and would bring *NEW* TV money:

    Georgia Tech Florida Vanderbilt Kansas (assuming they are allowed to leave KSU) (maybe) Virginia (with Richmond and Tidewater markets)

    Pitt and Iowa St bring no new TV money, Texas A&M, Colorado, and Missouri just moved and are underwater in their mortgage, UNC and Texas are political kings of their current conferences, and Duke wouldn't leave UNC.

    That said I fully expect 16 schools at some point if for nothing else but the design of the current B1G logo.

    Georgia Tech is rumored to be in talks with the B10 too.
    We aren't getting Florida. I wouldn't mind Kansas though.

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    Braintrust ●

  • Braintrust said...

    Georgia Tech is rumored to be in talks with the B10 too. We aren't getting Florida. I wouldn't mind Kansas though.

    We're not getting Kansas. Tied to KState.

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    RBW Spartan ●

  • 32 ECT said...

    Has pterp chimed in on this yet?

    Does the Big 10 serve free Bojangles at football games?

    Hot Sauce

  • RBW Spartan said...

    We're not getting Kansas. Tied to KState.

    What do you mean by that? Rivalry aspect? Academics?

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    Braintrust ●

  • RBW Spartan said...

    We're not getting Kansas. Tied to KState.

    I remember when people said the same about Texas and TAMU.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Braintrust said...

    What do you mean by that? Rivalry aspect? Academics?

    Political pressures from the legislature to make sure that one state school doesn't end up in a defunct conference because the other one jumped ship. The same is supposedly true about Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

    Rodeo Burger

  • Braintrust said...

    What do you mean by that? Rivalry aspect? Academics?

    Politically. KSU and Kansas are viewed as a pair. Same think with Oklahoma and OK State.

    SpartanBoiler ●

  • Like many in this thread, I can't say that I'm excited about the prospect of adding either MD or Rutgers. I have nothing against either school though nor do I feel they're not B10 worthy when it comes to academics or athletics. For me it's more of a geographical and cultural thing. We're THE conference in the Midwest. I really don't want to branch out to the East coast or South. I realize that money talks and this is all about money but who knows maybe we're being short sighted here.

    What's going to happen when most of our sports are streamed over the internet or offered via some sort of Pay Per View? Will all schools eventually have their own "Long Horn Network" someday? I can see the media market changing again in the near future and I have to wonder if we won't think "gee, I wish we would have stayed with 10 or 12 schools". Will cable TV become a thing of the past?

    Expanding in the wrong directions could be a mistake. I don't want the B10 to end up with values seen in the Big 12 or SEC territories when it comes to recruiting, unequal payouts, etc. That ESPN 30 for 30 special on SMU scares the crap out of me.

    I say "NO" to further expansion. In the event that we HAVE to grow then I say "stay in the Midwest." The only states I'd like to see schools come from would be any of our current member states plus Missouri, Kansas or the Dakotas. Anything else is out of bounds unless the USA and Canada become one.

    mydogsparty ●

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    I remember when people said the same about Texas and TAMU.

    TAMU was the one that left, not UT.

    If KState or Okie State decide to leave on their own, that's a whole different thing than the dominant school leaving on their own.

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  • Phil McCrackin said...

    I remember when people said the same about Texas and TAMU.

    Much smaller state/legislature to control.

    Read the narrative of TAMU and the thing that pushed the political opposition to accepting TAMU to the SEC was Texas announcement of The Longhorn Network. KU doesn't have that ace in the hole.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • mydogsparty said...

    Like many in this thread, I can't say that I'm excited about the prospect of adding either MD or Rutgers. I have nothing against either school though nor do I feel they're not B10 worthy when it comes to academics or athletics. For me it's more of a geographical and cultural thing. We're THE conference in the Midwest. I really don't want to branch out to the East coast or South. I realize that money talks and this is all about money but who knows maybe we're being short sighted here.

    What's going to happen when most of our sports are streamed over the internet or offered via some sort of Pay Per View? Will all schools eventually have their own "Long Horn Network" someday? I can see the media market changing again in the near future and I have to wonder if we won't think "gee, I wish we would have stayed with 10 or 12 schools". Will cable TV become a thing of the past?

    Expanding in the wrong directions could be a mistake. I don't want the B10 to end up with values seen in the Big 12 or SEC territories when it comes to recruiting, unequal payouts, etc. That ESPN 30 for 30 special on SMU scares the crap out of me.

    I say "NO" to further expansion. In the event that we HAVE to grow then I say "stay in the Midwest." The only states I'd like to see schools come from would be any of our current member states plus Missouri, Kansas or the Dakotas. Anything else is out of bounds unless the USA and Canada become one.

    The Dakotas? Would you explain just how any of the "dakota" schools would fit academically? Any AAU members? Is Missouri and AAU member? I am serious...would like to see your response.

    FYI, here is the list of AAU members: http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476

    This post was edited by ancientspartan on 11/19/2012 at 6:08 AM

    ancientspartan

  • Carcross said...

    This also makes a lot of sense from an academic side as well. Admissions aside (and both Rutgers and Maryland are good academic schools), they are also the ONLY big, public academic institution in their respective states. And, politically speaking based on the number of representatives, they are big states. This means, there are 4 new senators and a bunch of new reps, who in attempting to bring federal research $$$ to their states, will bring research through the CIC... which is more money for the B1G, as most of those federal research dollars apply to multiple schools. This often gets overlooked by the sport fan, but not the University Presidents who oversee their respective academic programs and the research dollars that go to them.

    Finally, an informed and intelligent response to the whole issue of expansion! Kudos to you!!!!

    ancientspartan

  • ancientspartan said...

    The Dakotas? Would you explain just how any of the "dakota" schools would fit academically? Any AAU members? Is Missouri and AAU member? I am serious...would like to see your response.

    FYI, here is the list of AAU members: http://www.aau.edu/about/article.aspx?id=5476

    Notice that "won't fit academically" Mizzou is on the list while umaa and UW-Madison helped vote Nebraska off/

    Mydogsparty has the heart in the right place but its a new BTN/media driven world. When the Big Ten got started it was critical to have a good university, a football team, decent size stadium and a train station. Conference networks and jet travel have changed that.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • If it's all about adding media markets then why not go for University of California, San Diego? Tap into a television audience three hours away from the LA market? Get the Buckeyes, Cornhuskers out on the west coast and try to generate some interest in new market areas and try to negotiate .80 cable contracts.

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  • I like the move because it expands the recruiting base. Adding Nebraska actually hurt the big ten overall. Nebraska added practically zero talent to the recruiting base of the conference while adding brother school to compete with in Ohio. New Jersey and Maryland are solid 2nd tier recruiting states and the added exposure should bring an influx of fresh talent into the Big Ten that will make our teams more competitive on the field.

    If it's true, then adding Georgia Tech would be the same thing. However, if Georgia Tech comes too, then you would need a 16th team as well.

    wingfanjim

  • Braintrust said...

    Georgia Tech is rumored to be in talks with the B10 too.

    I would be much happier with GT and MD than with Rutgers and MD.

    Trevor Barnes ●

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    I would be much happier with GT and MD than with Rutgers and MD.

    This. Adding Rutgers would be slumming it.

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    Giant Moose ●

  • Maryland and Rutgers? WTF? Are we the fat drunk slob in the bar at 2:10 am trying to hook up?

    SD Spartan ●

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    I would be much happier with GT and MD than with Rutgers and MD.

    I was reading the main GT board last night to get a feel and they seem like a cool group. As a whole they respected the B1G. However they just were not feeling it and they gave good reasons. GT is a B1G type school but I'm not sure the fit is there.

    ErnieMcCracken ●

  • Hot Sauce said...

    Does the Big 10 serve free Bojangles at football games?

    You're back!

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    Molon Labe

  • wingfanjim said...

    I like the move because it expands the recruiting base. Adding Nebraska actually hurt the big ten overall. Nebraska added practically zero talent to the recruiting base of the conference while adding brother school to compete with in Ohio. New Jersey and Maryland are solid 2nd tier recruiting states and the added exposure should bring an influx of fresh talent into the Big Ten that will make our teams more competitive on the field.

    If it's true, then adding Georgia Tech would be the same thing. However, if Georgia Tech comes too, then you would need a 16th team as well.

    IMO if the B10 ever wants to be competitive again they need to figure out a way to tap into the talent down south. I just don't see this move doing much to make B10 teams competitive on a national scale.

    I think I saw a figure where a bit of the top talent out East is already commited to B10 schools.

    Adding GT makes more sense if you want to get more exposure to better talent.

    This post was edited by steveschneider on 11/19/2012 at 9:08 AM

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  • Maryland deal is done according to this. Presser at 3.

    According to the Maryland 247Sports report, an announcement on Maryland to the Big Ten is expected to be made at 3pm.

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  • Giant Moose said...

    Maryland deal is done according to this. Presser at 3.

    According to the Maryland 247Sports report, an announcement on Maryland to the Big Ten is expected to be made at 3pm.

    They here

    Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.

    rookmsu ●

  • Link to MD 247 on it:

    http://maryland.247sports.com/Board/67/-MAJOR-IMS-NEWS-BREAK--14142962

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    Giant Moose ●

  • I actually like the move of Maryland.

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    Molon Labe

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