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Matt Charboneau talks about MSU as NC contenders

  • M.A.C. System said...

    Dang the SEC is better than I thought if they can manage 2 teams when only conference champs get the nod.

    Last year would have been LSU, Wisconsin, Oklahoma State, and Oregon I believe.

    I'm not a big fan of that system though because it doesn't get the best 4 teams into a playoff. What happens if say Virginia Tech is the absolute best team in the country one year, but the ACC doesn't rank as one of the top 4 conferences that year?

    That was it, instead of Wisky, it would have been Alabama. It's because they want one wildcard team (read, highest ranked BCS team not conference champ), and they would have taken the conference winners from the three highest conferences.

    Can you imagine the outcry if MSU won the B1G and didn't make it into the playoffs?

    VanWilder

  • EdMartin'sLoan said...

    Do yourself a favor and do not read the comment section.

    I did myself a favor and read them....lollol

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power
    BCS worthy? They couldn't do it with a senior quarterback and now they're going to do it with a no experience guy? Delusional...you never make the BCS without an experienced quarterback...DELUSIONAL!
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    James E. Miller
    Last year was AJ McCarron first year starting and he won a NC so how is this Delusional?

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power
    For every one that does that are 100 or more that never come close..tell me the last time that happened????

    Sam Hunter
    Cam Newton the year before.
    3 · Like

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power
    True...are you saying that Maxwell is a Cam Newton?? Sorry...its not malicious or anything, its just not gonna happen...

    James E. Miller
    since the BCS started in 1998, 9 first year QBs have started in the BCS champ game and 6 have won it.
    3 · Like

    Brian Schumacher · Sales Engineer at Markem-Imaje
    Like shooting fish in a barrell...

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  • CORNER BLITZ said...

    I did myself a favor and read them....lollol

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power BCS worthy? They couldn't do it with a senior quarterback and now they're going to do it with a no experience guy? Delusional...you never make the BCS without an experienced quarterback...DELUSIONAL! 1 · Like

    James E. Miller Last year was AJ McCarron first year starting and he won a NC so how is this Delusional?

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power For every one that does that are 100 or more that never come close..tell me the last time that happened????

    Sam Hunter Cam Newton the year before. 3 · Like

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal Power True...are you saying that Maxwell is a Cam Newton?? Sorry...its not malicious or anything, its just not gonna happen...

    James E. Miller since the BCS started in 1998, 9 first year QBs have started in the BCS champ game and 6 have won it. 3 · Like

    Brian Schumacher · Sales Engineer at Markem-Imaje Like shooting fish in a barrell...

    Actually that was informative. I didn't realize that the number of first-year QBs in the BCS championship game was so high. That gives me more confidence.

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  • Jay Sherbino said...

    This team reminds me of last years Alabama team. The defense was not that far off from Alabama's, and Leveon Bell reminds me of Trent Richardson just not as fast. If Maxwell can match McCarrons 2,634 yards and 16 touchdowns we should be great. The Big Ten is not a great conference so why cant we go undefeated? Every team lost key players at key positions, but MSU has by far the best defense returning. I know it sounds cliche, but defense wins championships. I really don't understand how true Spartan fans can honestly say we don't have a chance of winning the National Championship.

    Until we can prove it on the field, i generally have a tough time believing we can beat a team like alabama's '11 squad for a championship. I totally think we can go undefeated through the B1G season but i just don't think we'll have the offensive chops this year to win a BCS championship. Maybe if we had this O-line + Kirk and the receivers back. People cite LSU and their stellar defense but look at how their offense looked in that championship game. I don't even believe we'll be quite as good overall as that LSU team was.

    Nevertheless, it's cool that such aspirations are getting spoken about legitimately in the media.

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  • mentalstate said...

    I do. Time to visualize it.

    uw loses the main reason they won conf- Wilson. Put a typical uw stiff QB back there, we have 10+ sacks in both games. btw, don't see losing toon as hurting them too badly, he was sub-par and the white boy will have a good year for them in his place.

    neb loses crick, the LB and dennard on D. No idea who takes their place, or how they are looking.

    nd loses the best WR they'ev had since the rocket, and their best defensive player.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, but I hate talking about which players other teams are losing without knowing their complete roster well enough. Just because they lose key players doesn't mean they will be worse.

    Other teams are probably looking at us and talking about how we lose one of the best quarterbacks in school history, our best defensive player, two NFL caliber receivers, and our best offensive lineman (not to mention Pickelman, Robinson, and Baker). But we know very well that those losses shouldn't hurt us as much as they might appear to.

    Ringer23 ●

  • Klevin Torborg said...

    The offensive line is deep and talented and will be blocking for a group of running backs as good as any in the Big Ten. Special teams should remain solid and the defense, well, it's hard to find the right adjective for that group.

    The word talented would not do it justice. Nine starters return from a team that was sixth in the nation a year ago in total defense. And if its performance on Saturday was any indication, this defense will be one that could lead the Spartans somewhere they have only dreamt of in recent years — a national championship.

    It might seem crazy to assume that Michigan State could be included in such talk. Many of its detractors will be quick to point out that Michigan State is breaking in a new quarterback and has a crop of receivers who have little to no experience.

    But one look at this defense — one featuring an outstanding pass rush, a punishing group of linebackers and two of the best cover corners in the Big Ten — and it doesn't seem so strange.

    From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120430/OPINION03/204300326#ixzz1tX3fr7AJ

    The OL has a ways to go before I would call it deep and talented. This unit lacks star players and was 11th in the B1G in rushing last year with great RBs, excellent blocking TEs and WRs and a great QB. The weak link was the OL. Its nice to read this kind of stuff in April but I need to see it in a game before I believe it. From what we saw in the spring game its going to take a while to get our offense in synch with all the new players. Losing Maxwell for 2 weeks did not help.

    82msuspartan

  • Bruce Banner Ad said...

    We're not going to win a national title for the same reason BT teams usually don't: it's just too much of a gauntlet. Even if we get through BSU and nd, we've still got o$u, at wusconsin, at um, and nuhbraska, and that's just before the BT title game. Plus, we're breaking in a new QB and a new set of WRs, there's bound to be bumps in the road. I think our defense is going to be really, really good. Still, if we get to bowl season with two losses, I'll be ecstatic.

    The schedule gets a lot easier next year. Too bad Gholston will be gone.

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    AvgMSUJoe ●

  • This post was edited by Omage on 4/30/2012 at 1:22 PM

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  • If Oklahoma State beats Iowa State, there's a good chance they're playing for the MNC.

    Freakin' Oklahoma State.

    Anything is possible.

    This post was edited by JEK on 4/30/2012 at 1:25 PM

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    JEK

  • TravisotCosmos said...

    I'm reading this thread at a jimmy johns during lunch. Thunderstruck just came on the radio. Good oman.

    I'm admitting 10% here, but has "oman" been officially added to tRCMB dictionary (i.e. moran, minus well)?

    Herp Derp

  • I've never had a problem with even shitty MSU teams saying things like "we have the talent to win the NC". Why would you? Do you want them to think that they have the talent to win the pizza bowl but nothing more?

    I do not have National title expectations this year, but I like it that the team does!

    (fart sound)

    Rocinante

  • Herp Derp said...

    I'm admitting 10% here, but has "oman" been officially added to tRCMB dictionary (i.e. moran, minus well)?

    Yes . . . Moran!

    This post was edited by Klevin Torborg on 4/30/2012 at 1:40 PM

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  • 82msuspartan said...

    The OL has a ways to go before I would call it deep and talented. This unit lacks star players and was 11th in the B1G in rushing last year with great RBs, excellent blocking TEs and WRs and a great QB. The weak link was the OL. Its nice to read this kind of stuff in April but I need to see it in a game before I believe it. From what we saw in the spring game its going to take a while to get our offense in synch with all the new players. Losing Maxwell for 2 weeks did not help.

    Right now the OL is deep. Whether or not they're talented . . . . we'll have to see the starting OL to be sure. Boise/ND will provide a pretty good test.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Whatever....

    NOW is the Golden Age of MSU Football.

    I'm going to enjoy it this year, next year and into the forseeable future... no matter how many National Championships we win...green_koolaid

    Nίκη για MSU

    Bender

  • LSU has won 2 BCS championships with no crazy offensive talent that was off the charts. Albeit, one of their QB's to win was Matt Flynn.

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

    Cosmo_Kramer ●

  • CORNER BLITZ said...

    I did myself a favor and read them....lollol

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerBCS worthy? They couldn't do it with a senior quarterback and now they're going to do it with a no experience guy? Delusional...you never make the BCS without an experienced quarterback...DELUSIONAL! 1 · Like

    James E. MillerLast year was AJ McCarron first year starting and he won a NC so how is this Delusional?

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerFor every one that does that are 100 or more that never come close..tell me the last time that happened????

    Sam HunterCam Newton the year before. 3 · Like

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerTrue...are you saying that Maxwell is a Cam Newton?? Sorry...its not malicious or anything, its just not gonna happen...

    James E. Millersince the BCS started in 1998, 9 first year QBs have started in the BCS champ game and 6 have won it. 3 · Like

    Brian Schumacher · Sales Engineer at Markem-ImajeLike shooting fish in a barrell...

    That is possibly the greatest post article comment section beat down I've ever seen.

    locd32

  • CORNER BLITZ said...

    I did myself a favor and read them....lollol

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerBCS worthy? They couldn't do it with a senior quarterback and now they're going to do it with a no experience guy? Delusional...you never make the BCS without an experienced quarterback...DELUSIONAL! 1 · Like

    James E. MillerLast year was AJ McCarron first year starting and he won a NC so how is this Delusional?

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerFor every one that does that are 100 or more that never come close..tell me the last time that happened????

    Sam HunterCam Newton the year before. 3 · Like

    David Chamberlain · Mgr of Envr Affairs at American Municipal PowerTrue...are you saying that Maxwell is a Cam Newton?? Sorry...its not malicious or anything, its just not gonna happen...

    James E. Millersince the BCS started in 1998, 9 first year QBs have started in the BCS champ game and 6 have won it. 3 · Like

    Brian Schumacher · Sales Engineer at Markem-ImajeLike shooting fish in a barrell...

    It's actually happened three years in a row with McCarron, Newton, and McElroy. Newton did it with offense, but McCarron and McElroy both did it by being game managers, limiting mistakes, letting your running game carry the offense and letting your defense win the game, which MSU and Andrew Maxwell are capable of this year.

    Obviously it's not expected, and most of us see at least 1 or 2 losses this year. I'm predicting 10-2, but to be honest I can't look at the schedule and say "this is where we lose." We're better then all of them, but I'm just expecting a couple ND/NU performances this year where we just don't have it; running the table is stupid hard. Who knows though, maybe they surprise me and many on here and only have one bad performance which may be enough to squeak in with our schedule and a victory in the B1GCCG, or maybe they surprise the nation and run the table. We did go 11-1 two years ago, and imo we're better then anybody we will play any given day.

    This post was edited by Chilly on 4/30/2012 at 2:41 PM

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  • Everyone complains that the Blue Wall never puts out anything pro-MSU.

    Now that MC is calling us NC contenders everyone around here is quick to throw cold water on the idea. no

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  • Chilly said...

    It's actually happened three years in a row with McCarron, Newton, and McElroy. Newton did it with offense, but McCarron and McElroy both did it by being game managers, limiting mistakes, letting your running game carry the offense and letting your defense win the game, which MSU and Andrew Maxwell are capable of this year.

    Plus Maxwell will not be your typical first year starter. If he struggles, it won't be because he's still learning the offense. He will know the playbook like the back of his hand. All I ask of the offense is that they don't turn the ball over, extend drives and eat up clock with the running game. Do those things, and we won't need to score a ton of TDs to win.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • JEK said...

    Plus Maxwell will not be your typical first year starter. If he struggles, it won't be because he's still learning the offense. He will know the playbook like the back of his hand. All I ask of the offense is that they don't turn the ball over, extend drives and eat up clock with the running game. Do those things, and we won't need to score a ton of TDs to win.

    There's also plenty of room to improve on special teams. Conroy missed a few FGs last year that he should have made, Hill had a KR fumble, K-mart had a PR fumble and State gave up a KR and PR TD.

    FWIW, I feel that 20 yards of offense on the ground is worth more than 20 yards through the air. If MSU can improve it's ground game to even the middle of the conference (170ish ypg from 138) I think you'll see only a minimal drop-off in offensive production. Remember MSU was in the 80s nationally in 3rd down conversions, in large part because even 3rd and 2 was an automatic passing down, often with a 5-wide set.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

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