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You mean the NCAA institutionalized Cal's cheating by requiring one-and-dones?

Whether UK and Cal are cheating right now or not (I'm gonna safely assume they are), they both have cheated multiple times in the past. I have little respect for Kentucky and/or Cal and will not root for them.

Yeah.

And maybe I'll come home someday to see Jennifer Love Hewitt in my bed waiting for me.

Don't laugh.

It's possible.

Serious question ... I read the no classes after Jan 1 thing but that is technically not against the rules. So can someone explain how exactly they are 'cheating'?

Isn't there an exception if a player goes pro? Otherwise Ky is going to lose all of their schollies sometime soon.

And let's see: How many times has Ky been caught cheating? How many schools has Cal left just before the investigations? Everyone knows Ky is cheating and paying either players or families but nobody can prove it or everyone is keeping their mouth shut.

The networks are never going to say anything because of the money and the NCAA will not sacrifice their MONEY COW until the public stops watching the tournament. So, from now on don't watch and let the NCAA know about it.

In my view, it all really comes down to what you call "cheating." Kentucky does recruit one-and-dones, Calipari has a history of NCAA infractions at his programs with seasons and NCAA appearances vacated at Mass and Memphis, there has been tons of smoke regarding the recruitment of Davis, etc. We'll likely see Calipari move on before anything surfaces at Kentucky. I doubt the program is clean, but to what degree they're taking advantage of a system or flat-out cheating is the great unknown.

The real issue, to me, is the Kentucky fanbase who seems very willing to trade integrity for titles. In college football and basketball, it's very difficult to run a clean program and compete at that elite level for national titles. Fanbases tend to be willing to pretend it's not happening at their school despite the signs and symptoms. There is just too much money and pressure to win at some of these schools and that inevitably leads to coaching staffs looking for ways to shortcut the system. Kentucky knew this when they hired Calipari and they didn't care because they would be winning titles. Selling your soul, even a little bit, just doesn't seem worth it to me.......

Maybe Brady Hoke isn't actually fat

I would hope that all Spartans would be ashamed if we used cheating to win a championship.

I still hear Michigan fans bragging about the Fab Five era all the time though. This was arguably the largest scandal in NCAA history and fans from a supposedly integrity laden school are still touting this era.

In my experience, where there is smoke there is fire. It was true of Michigan Basketball in the 90s, it was true of USC football, Ohio State Football, Miami Football, Memphis Basketball etc etc These schools are supposed to be competing on an even playing field for recruits, when one school is getting literally 3 or 4 of the best 10 players every season to come to Kentucky (Kentucky?) and there is a vast history of cheating at both the school and with the coach there is about as much smoke as you can have.

This proves the NCAA is a joke, they are protecting programs like Kentucky because they are in it for the money. If the NCAA were serious about enforcement there would be guys there whose "Spidey Sense" would be going nuts right now. It just doesn't add up. You would think that a dozen recruits who were leaning towards other schools then visit and commit to Michigan after 1 visit would raise some red flags too, but it's all about the TV contracts to the NCAA.

Now some people have said, well, what about Carolina? Well, yeah, they get close to the same level of talent that UK does, but it's a historically clean program with aa cleaner coach and it's a more prestigious program. Carolina Basketball is an institution.

Does Cal even recruit these guys hard or does World Wide Wes just funnel them to UK ?

Rexrode came a sentence or two away from writing about cal's "recruitment methods" and what several straight-up coaches, including Izzo, had to say about it not too long ago. It almost boiled over a summer or two ago, when uk signed a bunch of 5 star players at once, despite cal being nowhere around them all summer on the circuit, where most every other college coach in America was, and was watching these kids and the people around them and what was happening.

There have been prices attached to many of his kids for years in the rumor mill, not often the rumor mill actually continually comes up with that detailed a rumor.

And btw, the "they recruit one-and-done" players....everyone does that. uk just wins that battle constantly because of WWW.

How can it not be some kind of violation for WWW to even commnicate just once with a potantial recruit, he's basically an agent? Just read up on him a little, this is the exact type of guy that should not be anywhere near College Basketball in any way. He's got roots going back 20 years, how could the NCAA let him hang around a porgram like Kentucky? I mean it's just preposterous!!! Worse than Ed Martin.