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Teams apparently can go over the 85 limit to accept PSU transfers. NOT unsigned commits. Most in this thread are severely confused.

This is correct.

PSU '13 verbals are just normal commits. You can continue to recruit them until they send their LOIs in.

The current PSU players may transfer without penalty. WOTS is that any team that accepts a PSU TRANSFER (Read; NOT A '13 VERBAL), may exceed the 85 man scholarship #, providing that their overall # of scholarships are reduced by that amount the next year.

For instance, if MSU is at 85 schollies and adds PSU SR DT Hill for this season, then MSU must be at 84 schollies for the '13 season.

Which makes those SR's or RS JR's the ones you want to go after if they are going to transfer.

And adding a special one-game, all-white helmet... with no decals. Just white.

, just using that as an example, and just about the only guy off of PSU State would take. Maybe Silar Redd as a speed-back threat. As good as Hodges is, I think MSU would stick with their current LBs. PSU replaces their entire secondary, so no Trenton Robinson-type player. Maybe take Justin Brown at WR, but really, not much on their current roster that MSU would use.

Now, for their current recruits, that's another story.

Haha as soon as I hit enter I realized you was using a hypothetical

Yea, why would the NCAA impose restrictions for taking kids who haven't signed a NOI? Until you sign on the dotted line, you can go anywhere you want. The only waivers the NCAA would have to grant would be for current players @PSU.

Oh, all 2012 kids have been released from their letters of intent. PSU's '12 recruiting cycle wasn't that great though.

Jesus, think of what you guys are saying. If any of Penn States committed players could transfer to anywhere without counting towards that schools scholarship count they could effectively all go to a different school together. Do you guys really think that makes sense?? "OSU signed all 12 of Penn State's commits, but wont count towards their scholarship count" Do you think the NCAA would stand with that? It's not that hard to grasp, WE DID NOT OFFER ZACH BECAUSE THIS OPENED ROOM. My guess is that after Zach committed to PSU, Dantonio felt we could use him on our team (wether it is at WR or OLB) and didn't want to recruit a committed player unless the recruit spoke with them first. So either Dantonio was contacted by Zach after this, or he decided with the sanctions that the players would be fair game due to common knowledge thinking players will be having second thoughts.

That only applies for current PSU players. 2013 recruits, like Bradshaw, are not current PSU players. They're treated just like normal recruits; if you have room to take them, you can take them and they sign their letters of intent in Feb.

The 85 man limit exception ONLY applies if a current PSU player, like Hodges or Redd, decides to go to another school, AND that school is already at 85 scholarship players.

Edit: Please understand that the 85-man limit exception is NOT official yet.

Thank you, at least Rocky gets it. 2013 Penn State commits are NOT Penn State players. They're just like any other high school player in America right now.

I get that for sure. What I can remember (which may or may not be right) at the time we were not recruiting Zach because we had just gotten two WR commits with Kilgore and Harris. Dantonio may have been higher on them than he was on Zach. The committed on the 25th of last month, Zach committed to PSU on the 27th. Since then we have seen MD has still been recruiting and offering other WR's, so maybe he figured to offer Zach now that all of their commits are decided whether to stay or drop their commitment to PSU. I still believe Dantonio doesn't recruit committed players, so perhaps Zach contacted him.

MSU looking for a big-bodied possession WR in this class. Kilgore is the speedy guy, Harris is the PR/KR/AP-type player, but they want a guy who can go across the middle and pick up 8 yards on 3rd and 7. Zach fits that mold.

He could also grow into a TE, play OLB or SS.