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Michigan State preseason roster and depth chart

  • WavSpartan said...

    Kind of expected to see Arnett higher on the chart. Interesting...

    He is coming off hand surgery...

    Wonder what the word is with Author Ray, Jr.

    Would expect Cox to be the on Frosh to crack 2-deeps...with WR being a wildcard, as we rotate more WRs.

    Crazy to see Freeman, who 2 years ago was the talk go spring ball and played at #2 DE, now 4th on the depth chart. And that's not because he isn't talented.

    mentalstate

  • Long snapper, Taybor Pepper?

    oldspart ●

  • oldspart said...

    Long snapper, Taybor Pepper?

    How fortunate are we that he got that schollie? What a stroke of genius.

    Big John Studd

  • I've seen recent pics of LT on twitter and imo he is no where near 295lbs.

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  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    He'd slide to OG for a pass first NFL team... Depends more on arm length and feet than height...

    Yeah height generally correlates with arm length which is why the taller guys play OT.

    Macks

  • Macks said...

    Yeah height generally correlates with arm length which is why the taller guys play OT.

    He also plays tall, has good technique. And towards the end of the year, we not only ran to his side, you'd see him 20 yards downfield blocking a DB or LB after peeling off the DE. Very athletic.

    Plus, he should get the Fletch measurement: 6'4, 6'9 with the afro.

    This post was edited by mentalstate on 7/26/2012 at 9:25 AM

    mentalstate

  • Macks said...

    Yeah height generally correlates with arm length which is why the taller guys play OT.

    Generally. But we are speaking in specific terms here.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    I can see Rocky going "number 3" in his pants that Hoover is at 310lbs now.

    That's a big dude.

    White's at 330? He better be able to move at that weight . . . and if he can, he's looking at being taken in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • mike3fan said...

    I've seen recent pics of LT on twitter and imo he is no where near 295lbs.

    A) post one of them

    B) More or less?

    C) doesn't really matter, as we'll see him on the field soon enough. ~ 30 days in fact.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Larry Kazamias said...

    Mumphrey and Fowler or Lippett at WR. Interesting.

    That is very interesting. In the spring, it was Lippett and Fowler as the starters. Looks like Mumphrey stepped it up. I really love his speed to the outside and he looked to have very good change of direction when making his breaks (on the whole 4 routes of his I actually paid attention to in the spring lol)

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    That's a big dude.

    White's at 330? He better be able to move at that weight . . . and if he can, he's looking at being taken in the first 3 rounds of the draft.

    More like 1st round....and they said last year during spring ball that at 320 he wouldn't get gassed during sprints, and passed a lot of players from other positions while running them. Much of his mass is muscle, he's a power lifter. If he continues from where he was at the end of the spring, he will be a wrecking ball and 1st-round pick.

    mentalstate

  • spartan10 said...

    Calero a fullback... Nothing at all against Calero, but where is the poster who had him as this all-world de?

    Good place for him though. He wasn't pushing past Calhoun/Heath at DE and he's a year older than those 2.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • I'm really surprised Hammock didn't stick at FB. That guy plays with a level of force perfect for the position, and is the right size, and he'd be the #2 guy at worst. Probably the most impactful hitter pound for pound on the team. He and Denicos (for fear of my life including Denicos).

    I guess they are going to try to relieve Max a little more often this year and get Hammock some situational reps this year though...

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • SpartanRocky said...

    That is very interesting. In the spring, it was Lippett and Fowler as the starters. Looks like Mumphrey stepped it up. I really love his speed to the outside and he looked to have very good change of direction when making his breaks (on the whole 4 routes of his I actually paid attention to in the spring lol)

    Also this all very fluid and it would be kinda bullshit to take away Mumphrey's spot when by all accounts he had a very solid spring.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Johnny2x2x said...

    What's crazy is there is only 1 senior starting on offense and only 2 seniors in the 2 deep.

    Defense has 4 seniors starting with Hoover possibly being able to get a 6th year so that could be 3 seniors starting. only 5 serniors total in the 2 deep.

    So this team's 2 deep top 44 players has 7 seniors in it. Wow.

    I count ten in the two deep. Still great depth. 2 starters and 2 backups on offense and 4 starters and 2 backups on defense. Am I reading it wrong?

    bpmcgant

  • I'm loving the height on the d-line. Could make passing that much more difficult for opposing QBs.

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  • spartan10 said...

    Calero a fullback... Nothing at all against Calero, but where is the poster who had him as this all-world de?

    I'll not sit silently while you besmirch our first and only 6 star recruit.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Good place for him though. He wasn't pushing past Calhoun/Heath at DE and he's a year older than those 2.

    Oh I agree, try to find a spot for him. I'm just mentioning the poster, who I can't remember his name, who made it seem that he'd be better than gholston.

    spartan10

  • 82msuspartan said...

    Who is going to be the nickel? I assume Mitchell White. Looking at the secondary after Adams, White, Dennard and Lewis there is very little experience behind them. I still think Lippett ultimately ends up back in the secondary.

    Likely Jairus Jones. Jones was neck and neck with Isaiah Lewis at SS in Spring '11, with Lewis a smidge ahead. The plan at the time was to move Lewis to the nickel, where he played in 2010, and put Jones in at SS, feeling that there would be no drop-off at SS and Lewis would be comfortable at NB.

    When Jones hurt his Achilles, that plan got scrapped, and Kurtis Drummond played NB instead. He acquitted himself well, recording 2 INTs and setting himself up to snag the starting FS role this season.

    I think MSU prefers using a S instead of a CB at NB, because it allows a slightly more physical personnel package on 3rd and long. With multiple teams focusing on TEs, having a 3 S on the field on 3rd and long allows MSU to match-up better with opposing personnel groups (here's looking at you ND, tOSU, Iowa, Wisconsin and Northwestern's ridiculously named "super-backs")

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • WavSpartan said...

    Kind of expected to see Arnett higher on the chart. Interesting...

    Depth chart doesn't show the slot receiver as a starter (2 WR, FB, TE, RB skill position group). I take that part of the depth chart to mean that Sims Jr. and Arnett are neck and neck for the slot WR position, which MSU uses quite often.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • d.mcc said...

    Also... Bell and Palazeti. 6'2 243 and 6'1 250 respectively? That's a whole shit ton of mass in short yardage situations.

    You would be correct:

    Shit-ton - Widely adaptable large unit of measure. Generally speaking, take an amount of something that an average person may have and add a shitload more to it. This results in a shit-ton.

    Also:
    A Shit-ton is equivalent to 24 metric assloads, or 1/10th of a fuck-ton.

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  • Macks said...

    Interesting to see Fonoti listed at 6'4. Most OTs are 6'5-6'7. Hopefully that doesn't put a damper on his NFL chances. Also, strange to see over half our line under 300lb. Last year after the spring we were set up to have one of the biggest lines in the B1G.

    Who cares? Bama started a 6'1 OG on their NC team; Auburn had a 6'3 OT on their NC squad. Fonoti was an OG in CC, and would project as an OG in the NFL. Plenty of 6'4 NFL OGs.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • VargMan said...

    How many scholarship players on that roster? 88?

    I think 86, assuming Drew Stevens' surgery prevents him from being with the team this fall (med. DQ). They were at 88, but Stevens + Deyo's transfer = 86 by my count.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Some interesting developments on the depth chart.

    Obviously Fowler/Lippett and Mumphrey as starting WR's is the first one. Like Rocky said, it looks like Sims/Arnett are fighting for the slot position when we go to 3 WR sets. I wouldn't be surprised if Burbridge backs up Mumphrey once he gets on campus.

    Allen being at LG instead of C. I wonder if he's pushing Treadwell for the starting LG spot?

    I was a bit surprised to see NIck Hill or Langford as the 3rd back. I would have thought it would be more likely to see Caper or Nick Hill as the 2nd string RB.

    I'm glad to see LT officially at DE. I think it's likely Lyles will move there too. We may have struck out on DE recruiting last year and so far this year (it's still early) but we're stacked with young talented DE's.

    Looks like Drummond has separated himself from Williamson. I thought there would be an "or" for the starting spot. I think Williamson has a decent shot to be the nickel back though. I'd guess it would be him or Jones.

    Stones1981

  • we must not just simply beat teams, we must break the spirit of their fan, take away their love of the game and make them give up on competing in football ever again.

    Your average UofM fan and I have something in common, neither of us went to UofM. Though we do share One major difference, I got Accepted.

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