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Dial up another 7 step drop with a garbage line buddy...

you are a retard

Wow. Not for the faint hearted. Can we get Mo Watts back please?

That is the soundtrack to our season. It really captured the spirit of the end of the first half today.

i remember a guy telling the media they just have to keep going to the practice field and getting better after every loss. kinda see some similarities between roushar and JLS

I think this is exactly what happened.

MD was given carte blanche authority to hire whomever he pleased. He decided to promote a friend - perhaps return a favor?

Will Roushar return. Well, MD is:
* loyal, (and it would be tough to fire a friend)
* Stubborn, (it would be tough to admit his hire was bad)

As such, short of MSU losing to Minnesota, I worry that Roushar will be back in 2013.

I see your point, but ever since the internal promotion of Bobby Williams, I've been sceptical of internal promoting a position coach to preserve "staff stability".

We all know Bobby was in over his head. Unfortunately, the MSU program took a serious nose-dive before Bobby was eventually fired. Culminating with his "I don't know..." response to Mason's question of "who's in charge?"

It's obvious to me that Roushar is in over his head. Will we see a repeat of the Bobby Williams era? Roushar plunging this program into a similar level obscurity before he's canned.

We shall see...

I do not think Roushar has done a good job at all this year, but just to throw something else into the discussion:

I'm wondering if sometimes people on this board overestimate how easy it is to dramatically change an offense in the middle of game or even during the week.

I don't know as much about the Xs and Os of football, but as a basketball coach myself, there are often times when I notice something in a game and have an idea of what would counter it or help our team, but implementing these changes to a group of kids on the fly who have spent so much time learning another system is not an easy task. For people who know football coaching better than I do, is there some element of this involved here? Sure there are some things we could do differently, but to a certain extent, aren't we stuck with the things we've been working on since training camps? And so, if those things don't work with who we have, I would think much of the blame on that falls to the HC.

I watched the whole NW/Michigan game and got a good feeling for the offense with the option etc.

So what do they do right off the bat against us? They fake the option and do that shovel pass for a big gain. That was GENIUS and a great example of an easy adjustment by a OC to change things up.

It is those type of adjustments that we are missing. We came off the bye week with nothing new.

At what level do you coach? I understand your thought but I am guessing a big ten offensive playbook has an answer for everything.

We had tremendous success in balancing our formation with double tight keeping their defense balanced with two high. entire playbook is open here. Our multiple formations are just too cute for me. kiss principle when you out talent the opponent, and I firmly believe we had that advantage yesterday.

Placing all of the blame on the OC is absolutely ridiculous. We had over 400 yards of offense in this game-- clearly enough to win the game. There was also a good mix of plays-- some of which worked and some of which didn't. Understand that there were at least two HUGE sacks for significant loss coming off blitzes that were not picked up by the blocking back who many say will jump to the NFL after this season. There were also plays broken up by "matador" blocking by some of our most "experienced" offensive linemen. Dropped passes by multiple receivers. These players are not coached to miss blocking assignments or drop passes or fumble the ball or throw interceptions or miss field goals. As Coach D said in his post-game comments, there is "blame" for everyone in the program.

This is why I place the blame on roushar...you think that kind of thought doesn't go down to the kids that are playing the game?

This season to me is just JLS all over again (but with D and O switched). Our defense is great, but knows they have to do everything perfect to win the game because our offense is going to fuck up. Eventually it wears on them and they break down where they normally wouldn't have. Reminds me of Drew Stanton trying to get a TD on every play because he knows the D is a sieve

Roushar sucks and deserves a lot of the blame for the season's results. Look at facts though - MD is beyond loyal and he's not going to fire his friend.

The question really shouldn't be is Roushar going to be fired - its "can Roushar improve in the offseason as a coach?" We should be asking MD that kid of question... how specifically is he going to address those faults to make sure his coaching staff grows and improves. If he really is a good coach, then he *should* have an improvement plan for everyone on his staff...