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Michigan ex-patriates - what would it take for you to move back?

  • By-Tor said...

    So would you or wouldn't you move to Michigan if I doubled your pay and only made you work 3 days a week? Cause that's what you brought up.

    Sure for double the pay and a four-day weekend every week, I'd move just about anywhere.

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    Giant Moose

  • ClankyIronBoots said...

    Your state is bad and you should feel bad

    stick it...

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    Misterray

  • Misterray said...

    AWESOME!

    Yet another thread for people who left the state to tear into Michigan's weather, economy, fatness, education, women, accent, politics, religion, attitudes, etc. etc. etc. etc.

    The fact is, that there is a selection process here. People who don't value all the things that Michigan offers move away. Big surprise.

    If you found happiness somewhere else, I'm happy for you. Michigan is also a great place to live. It has actual seasons, lots of great people and communities, and beautiful surroundings. Some of us even have jobs!

    If you insist on putting it down for whatever bent reason, you can stick it up your ass.

    BOOM! +1. After I graduate from MSU I would love to explore my options and live in different parts of the country. That said, people ripping the state on here are being a little too smug for my liking.

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    Master Tang

  • VinAZ said...

    That's a great point...if/when we run out of H2O in the desert, I may be forced to look at other options. Michigan would definitely look better, in that case...

    Phoenix is at the confluence of six or seven rivers, which historically drain from the mountains in the North and Eastern areas of Arizona and then join up as the Gila River to flow to the Colorado. Historically, these rivers were dry much of the year, but flooded due to upriver snow and rain. The Indians actually built canals in what is now Phoenix to move and store the runoff for irrigation. The early white settlers rebuilt and extended the canal network and then dammed many of the rivers to control flooding. Drinking and irrigation water is delivered year round from the dam impoundments, most notably Roosevelt Lake.

    Because of those historical rivers, there is also a tremendous amount of groundwater under the Phoenix area. Originally, this was used predominately for agriculture. As the city has grown, most of the agriculture has moved out - there's almost no citrus left. As a result, the metro area uses less water today than it did 50 years ago.

    Still, in most of the area, the water table has declined, so we must be judicious. We now supplement our groundwater supplies with water from the Colorado River, delivered by the Central Arizona Project canals. Overall, in the Phoenix Active Management Area, the goal by 2025 is that no more water will be drawn from groundwater than is being replaced each year.

    Water is replaced in the ground with water drawn from the Colorado River that exceeds local needs and with reclaimed water. Reclaimed water comes from collected and treated wastewater. Most of the golf courses in the area are irrigated with treated wastewater.

    We are fortunate in Phoenix; much of Arizona is not so fortunate and I don't know how Las Vegas is going to make it.

    Beaudreau10

  • Beaudreau10 said...

    Phoenix is at the confluence of six or seven rivers, which historically drain from the mountains in the North and Eastern areas of Arizona and then join up as the Gila River to flow to the Colorado. Historically, these rivers were dry much of the year, but flooded due to upriver snow and rain. The Indians actually built canals in what is now Phoenix to move and store the runoff for irrigation. The early white settlers rebuilt and extended the canal network and then dammed many of the rivers to control flooding. Drinking and irrigation water is delivered year round from the dam impoundments, most notably Roosevelt Lake.

    Because of those historical rivers, there is also a tremendous amount of groundwater under the Phoenix area. Originally, this was used predominately for agriculture. As the city has grown, most of the agriculture has moved out - there's almost no citrus left. As a result, the metro area uses less water today than it did 50 years ago.

    Still, in most of the area, the water table has declined, so we must be judicious. We now supplement our groundwater supplies with water from the Colorado River, delivered by the Central Arizona Project canals. Overall, in the Phoenix Active Management Area, the goal by 2025 is that no more water will be drawn from groundwater than is being replaced each year.

    Water is replaced in the ground with water drawn from the Colorado River that exceeds local needs and with reclaimed water. Reclaimed water comes from collected and treated wastewater. Most of the golf courses in the area are irrigated with treated wastewater.

    We are fortunate in Phoenix; much of Arizona is not so fortunate and I don't know how Las Vegas is going to make it.

    Water will never run out in Phoenix or Vegas. The populations are too big and there is too much money invested there. There may be a temporary shortage in the future, but they will find a way to get it done.

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    The Doctor

  • daggermouth said...

    Made enough to not owe anyone anything and be able to do something else. Made some bad decisions early that have made us save, save, save. Not exactly sure what I'm hoping to do yet. Just hoping to get some non-law experience in Chicago before moving somewhere smaller. I'm hoping to marginally like what I do for another 20+ years, and I realize that won't be as a lawyer.

    Been talking to a few different people, and it's nice to be looking without absolutely needing to find a job (as I was when we moved to Chicago).

    What sorts of things have you done to figure out what other fields have job opportunities for which you are qualified? I think one of the difficulties for lawyers is that legal experience (i.e., understanding how to litigate or draft corporate documents) doesn't necessarily directly translate into skills useful in other jobs.

    jmcmsu

  • jmcmsu said...

    What sorts of things have you done to figure out what other fields have job opportunities for which you are qualified? I think one of the difficulties for lawyers is that legal experience (i.e., understanding how to litigate or draft corporate documents) doesn't necessarily directly translate into skills useful in other jobs.

    I've talked to a number of people in different industries, and it will likely take a creative HR person to see how my skills will prove useful. I have a few people who are very interested in getting me in the door w/ their companies. I'm currently angling toward energy analysis/consulting, IP, and business development in tech. I'm attempting to avoid jobs where I'll just end up doing in-house legal work.

    daggermouth