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My msu.edu email address - It Gone!

  • boo fucking hoo. you want to stay connected to MSU, join the AA.

    Lomez

  • The only reason I want to keep it is for nostalgic purposes. Oh well all good things come to an end. Bye bye MSU mail cry

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    A man's gotta eat!

    Stan Sitwell

  • What a stupid policy. It's stuff like this that makes MSU seem really behind the times. Oh well, another excuse not to give them money.

    WavSpartan

  • Lomez said...

    boo fucking hoo. you want to stay connected to MSU, join the AA.

    I'm part of the alumni association. Doesn't do much for me, really. I view it only as a donation.

    Sparty is our mascot, we are Spartans.

    ConQueso

  • ConQueso™ said...

    I'm part of the alumni association. Doesn't do much for me, really. I view it only as a donation.

    as do most people.

    Lomez

  • ConQueso™ said...

    I'm part of the alumni association. Doesn't do much for me, really. I view it only as a donation.

    Even if you join the Alumni Association, you don't get to keep your msu.edu address.

    We should seriously launch some kind of formal protest. It worked for the new Spartan Logo. Maybe it'll work for this. I'm still paying for my MSU education. They can't keep a damn email account open for me? Not even a forward? What a joke.

    WavSpartan

  • Rook said...

    The odd thing is that MSU is basically eliminating one known contact source for many alumni. Might make contacting alumni for donations slightly more difficult.

    They've never had any trouble tracking me down, and my MSU e-mail is long gone.

    BoilerRoom

  • ConQueso™ said...

    I'm going to advocate for firing the email staff that came up with this plan. Next time msu calls asking for a donation tell them you would but you don't feel connected any more.

    Wow. Overreact much?

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • tGreenWay said...

    Wow. Overreact much?

    That comment could be pointed towards the email staff as well.

    Bagger Vance

  • I don't think i really care. Stopped using it once i graduated and saw how much better gmail is. Furthermore, who still uses email to contact other people? Isn't it just for getting online order confirmations??

    workinghere

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    Brodson

  • You guys are looking at it all wrong. At least you're young enough that you had an MSU email address.

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    Floyd Robertson

  • tGreenWay said...

    Wow. Overreact much?

    I was exaggerating on the whole firing thing, but I'm bored and I am annoyed at how little MSU seems to care about younger alumni.

    Sparty is our mascot, we are Spartans.

    ConQueso

  • I'm going to echo what everyone above has said.

    I use that account for all of my important and official accounts. This is going to be a pain in the bum back tracking and figuring out all of my old login IDs so I can get in and change my email address on the account.

    1) MSU Webmail has been a joke and a rolling 10 years behind the latest technology. The only reason I used it was for the @msu.edu domain which gave me both pride and clout.

    2) This alumni won't be donating any time soon. My excuse the last 7 years has been that I paid them enough in parking tickets and fines that I've already donated more than enough. I was finally coming around to dumping that excuse, but this reignites the fire.

    3) With the cost of storage space these days, this action is absurd when being taken as a cost measure. Many alternatives were identified earlier in this thread. On top of that, even though everyone is allocated 1 GB, what % of people are even close to utilizing that space? I'd venture an uneducated guess that 75% of that "allocated space" wasn't even being used.

    Great job MSU.

    Patlanta

  • workinghere said...

    I don't think i really care. Stopped using it once i graduated and saw how much better gmail is. Furthermore, who still uses email to contact other people? Isn't it just for getting online order confirmations??

    Yeah, but a lot of people forward their emails from past accounts so that they don't have to contact everyone with the changes to an email address.

    For example, my Hotmail and MSU accts go to my gmail automatically now. Which goes to my phone. I don't want to maintain 18 different accounts. I want to maintain one and have my old ones follow me to my new accounts. Now anything that references the msu account I have to go back and maintain.

    Fact is that it's an antiquated way of thinking of email. People paid msu a lot of money. So many places offer free email (gmail, hotmail, etc) and a University with all of it's resources can't figure out a way to keep an address alive even to forward it.

    So many schools are offering lifetime email addresses now. It just makes MSU look behind the times. Definitely not an innovative policy

    WavSpartan

  • Even when I was in school in the late 90s, I had both my msu.edu account and a Hotmail account. I used the msu.edu address for MSU related stuff and official stuff---the rest (now GMail) is all personal. I don't even store my msu.edu email on the server--I download it directly and delete the server copy. I maybe have a couple of web pages on the AFS space (I don't even remember how to log on to that now, nor do I really care).

    To me, this just shows how far MSU still has to come institutionally when relating to its alumni populations. It makes sense to try to be efficient technologically, but what percentage of the 300,000 accounts they're going to wax are utilized actively? I'd bet less than 10%, if that. Most graduates have their own personal email accounts and probably a work account, and they stop using msu's email shortly after graduation. Those that continue to use it do so because they're proud of the domain name (something not to be underestimated) or because it's an actual resource for them.

    I'm willing to bet that MSU IT didn't even think to ask the Alumni Association what they thought of the idea or have someone from University Advancement at the table (i.e. to tell them how many primary email addresses in their constituent database are msu.edu addresses). IT and Advancement could have run a cross-link between the two tables to see how many are active.

    Someday, MSU will learn that sometimes it's the little things that matter. Bulldoze a crumbling, decrepit building, people can understand that. Mess with something that affects people's affinity to MSU, like the email addresses, or the Spartan logo--in time, those things add up.

    SpartanGreen78

  • So instead of bitching about it on a message board why doesnt everyone complain like they did about the logo? I personally think I will send a message telling the higher ups after dropping 50k on an education they could at least forward my email for me. Im sure if the ball got rolling on this they would change their tune.

    NoNeed2Bluff

  • SpartanGreen78 said...

    Even when I was in school in the late 90s, I had both my msu.edu account and a Hotmail account. I used the msu.edu address for MSU related stuff and official stuff---the rest (now GMail) is all personal. I don't even store my msu.edu email on the server--I download it directly and delete the server copy. I maybe have a couple of web pages on the AFS space (I don't even remember how to log on to that now, nor do I really care).

    To me, this just shows how far MSU still has to come institutionally when relating to its alumni populations. It makes sense to try to be efficient technologically, but what percentage of the 300,000 accounts they're going to wax are utilized actively? I'd bet less than 10%, if that. Most graduates have their own personal email accounts and probably a work account, and they stop using msu's email shortly after graduation. Those that continue to use it do so because they're proud of the domain name (something not to be underestimated) or because it's an actual resource for them.

    I'm willing to bet that MSU IT didn't even think to ask the Alumni Association what they thought of the idea or have someone from University Advancement at the table (i.e. to tell them how many primary email addresses in their constituent database are msu.edu addresses). IT and Advancement could have run a cross-link between the two tables to see how many are active.

    Someday, MSU will learn that sometimes it's the little things that matter. Bulldoze a crumbling, decrepit building, people can understand that. Mess with something that affects people's affinity to MSU, like the email addresses, or the Spartan logo--in time, those things add up.

    I suggest any members of the Alumni Association send an email or tweet to Scott Westerman of the AA, and voice your displeasure.

    He's a good guy so be cordial.

    Maybe he can at least represent us to MSU IT if he gets enough feedback.

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    RPMadMSU

  • RPMadMSU said...

    I suggest any members of the Alumni Association send an email or tweet to Scott Westerman of the AA, and voice your displeasure.

    He's a good guy so be cordial.

    Maybe he can at least represent us to MSU IT if he gets enough feedback.

    I dropped a nice line to the MSUAA about it, using my msu.edu email account. biggrin

    According to wikipedia, there are about 60,000 students/faculty/staff at MSU. If MSU is terminating 300,000 accounts, I'll guess big and say that there are maybe 400,000 accounts total. Again, guessing large, if 10% of those non-student/faculty/staff accounts are actively used, that's about 30,000, so ~90,000 total actively used accounts.

    Is the difference in cost and storage savings between 60,000 and 90,000 that significant?

    SpartanGreen78

  • This is bullshit. I have used that email address for ten years. I don't even know where to begin to unravel this mess. Every important thing I've done for the past ten years has used this email address and now I have three weeks to change all that.

    Why not simply keep it as a forwarding address? Or give us far more notice?

    PRStoetzer


  • I clicked the link at the bottom of the email for the "if you feel this message is in error" or however it was worded, and wrote a message stating that I wasn't happy with the idea and that many others weren't as well.

    Maybe if enough people complain they can alter the change to only non-accessed accounts?

    Le Flama Blanca

  • PRStoetzer said...

    This is bullshit. I have used that email address for ten years. I don't even know where to begin to unravel this mess. Every important thing I've done for the past ten years has used this email address and now I have three weeks to change all that.

    Why not simply keep it as a forwarding address? Or give us far more notice?

    I'm pretty sure they've sent emails before regarding the shut off.

    I like having the email address too...but I certainly don't use it for much....especially for anything important for just this reason.

    Brodson

  • OCCUPY THE COMPUTER CENTER!!! WHO'S WITH ME! coffee

    Brodson

  • I got an email about this a couple months ago. I stopped using the MSU address while still in school because it was slow and shitty. It has been over two years since graduation though. I forwarded everything to GMail, and whatever was lost, well...

    This post was edited by Cosmo_Kramer on 5/30/2012 at 12:49 PM

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

    Cosmo_Kramer

  • Cosmo_Kramer said...

    I got an email about this a couple months ago. I stopped using the MSU address while still in school because it was slow and shitty. I forwarded everything to GMail, and whatever was lost, well...

    That's what many people do. The whole point is the forwarding going away. Ridiculous.

    Andy_H