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No more "Legends" or "Leaders?"

  • How about whichever team wins the division gets to name it for the next 365 days?

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  • Gob_Bluth said...

    How about whichever team wins the division gets to name it for the next 365 days?

    This idea I like!

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  • Delaney will probably sell the naming rights to the highest bidders.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor ●

  • On about 60 seconds of work.

    West
    Nebraska (Ohio State)
    Iowa (Penn State)
    Minnesota (Michigan)
    Wisconsin (Michigan State)
    Northwestern (Rutgers)
    Illinois (Maryland)
    Purdue (Indiana)

    East
    Indiana (Purdue)
    Michigan (Minnesota)
    Michigan State (Wisconsin)
    Ohio State (Nebraska)
    Penn State (Iowa)
    Rutgers (Northwestern)
    Maryland (Illinois)

    No idea about "competitive balance," but the eye test seems okay...the West may be better top to bottom (just seems to be a bigger gap between top and bottom in the East), but there's 2-3 teams in the East that would be every year contenders too.

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  • I like the Lakes/Plains idea, but the problem is always going to be that due to competitive balance concerns, there will be teams that are more "Lakes" geographically than "Plains", and vice versa. Who cares. It's better than East/West which would have the same problem.

    Douchenozzles like Dan Dakich will rant about it during a game either way. "Gee partner, Nebraska is in the Lakes division, but I didn't see any water when we flew in this morning!"

    Rodeo Burger

  • Just glad to hear they've already ruled out Bo and Woody..

    Jfaspen

  • why not North and South
    North - Minny, Wisky, MSU, Mich, NW, Rutgers, Indiana
    South - Neb, Illinois, Penn St, Purdue, Maryland, Ohio St, Iowa

    Protected games
    MSU vs PSU
    Mich vs OSU
    Neb vs Iowa
    Rutgers vs Maryland
    NW vs Illinois
    Indiana vs Purdue
    Minny vs Wisky

    my 2cents.

    SlicRic16

  • I hated it at first but I like it now

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  • Animals:
    Michigan
    Iowa
    Wisconsin
    Northwestern
    Minnesota
    Penn State

    Not Animals:
    Spartans
    Hoosiers
    Boilermakers
    Illini
    Cornhuskers
    Buckeyes

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  • xYAxTRICKx said...

    East Penn State Michigan Michigan State Ohio State Rutgers Maryland Indiana

    West Wisconsin Nebraska Iowa Northwestern Illinois Purdue Minnesota

    RIP ta da MSU football program

    Walter_Sanchez

  • Trevor Barnes said...

    Course I am glad they got rid of this variation...

    Someday it will look a lot like that anyway.

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  • xYAxTRICKx said...

    Just restructure the divisions geographically and give them East/West names. This Lakes/Plains, Bo/Woody stuff is garbage.

    Why let geography play a part with today's travel budgets? I would rather have them balanced and named Ren & Stimpy then unbalanced divisions based on geography.

    bulldogg

  • AverageWhiteGuy said...

    Animals: Michigan Iowa Wisconsin Northwestern Minnesota Penn State

    Not Animals: Spartans Hoosiers Boilermakers Illini Cornhuskers Buckeyes

    Clutch.

    This is my close third only to Great Lakes/Great Plains and douchey/ not douchey

    FearsomePenguin ●

  • Gob_Bluth said...

    How about whichever team wins the division gets to name it for the next 365 days?

    2013 Winners of the Cheddar Division:
    Ohio State

    2013 Winners of the Corn Division:
    Michigan State

    Trevor Barnes

  • Floyd Robertson said...

    Someday it will look a lot like that anyway.

    I bet they don't even change it for when they go to 16. It's almost a 6 now.

    Trevor Barnes

  • WBill19542 said...

    I like not playing OSU during the regular season for the next 4 years......keep that part.

    Exactly. We could be in the Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich division, as long as we don't play OSU every year.

    CaseHallBaller

  • bulldogg said...

    Why let geography play a part with today's travel budgets? I would rather have them balanced and named Ren & Stimpy then unbalanced divisions based on geography.

    There's a weird thing about trying to create "balance" in the divisions. It's almost impossible to predict who will be good in 10 years and can completely backfire. Look at Wisconsin as an example. They were horrible in the 80's and got really good in the 90's and 2000's. The ACC tried to engineer a Miami vs FSU championship game with how they set their divisions. It's never happened. After the JLS and Bobby debacles, no one could've imagined that MSU would be one of the top dogs for an extended period of time. The only way to have "balanced" divisions involves constantly resetting them.

    sprtnbrn ●

  • sprtnbrn said...

    There's a weird thing about trying to create "balance" in the divisions. It's almost impossible to predict who will be good in 10 years and can completely backfire. Look at Wisconsin as an example. They were horrible in the 80's and got really good in the 90's and 2000's. The ACC tried to engineer a Miami vs FSU championship game with how they set their divisions. It's never happened. After the JLS and Bobby debacles, no one could've imagined that MSU would be one of the top dogs for an extended period of time. The only way to have "balanced" divisions involves constantly resetting them.

    True but schools with 100,000 + seat stadiums and the biggest budgets in the league rarely stay crappy for extended periods. Coaches come and go, but the stadiums and the $$ remain.

    WBill19542

  • ejhakayoda1 said...

    How about: Red/Not red. Illinois can be considered red since orange is close enough to red and there are 6 red schools.

    I have brought this up in the past, except I think Maroon is more red then Orange is red.

    Red : UW, NE, Indiana, RU, UMaryland, OSU, UMINN

    Not Red : MSU, UM, NW, Iowa, PU, PSU, ILL

    Except, the B10 wants to optimize the east coast TV sets, so I don't see an alignment that doesn't have RU/Maryland/PSU and UM in one division.

    Spartan_MD

  • SlicRic16 said...

    why not North and South North - Minny, Wisky, MSU, Mich, NW, Rutgers, Indiana South - Neb, Illinois, Penn St, Purdue, Maryland, Ohio St, Iowa

    Protected games MSU vs PSU Mich vs OSU Neb vs Iowa Rutgers vs Maryland NW vs Illinois Indiana vs Purdue Minny vs Wisky

    my 2cents.

    Because the reason Maryland and RU were added was to optimize east coast tv sets, so PSU and UM have to be in the same division as RU and Maryland.

    Personally, I think it would benefit MSU recruiting wise to have the east/west alignment as they could continue to recruit Ohio and Penn.

    What does going to a talent poor state like Iowa or NE do for MSU?

    Spartan_MD

  • SlicRic16 said...

    why not North and South North - Minny, Wisky, MSU, Mich, NW, Rutgers, Indiana South - Neb, Illinois, Penn St, Purdue, Maryland, Ohio St, Iowa

    Protected games MSU vs PSU Mich vs OSU Neb vs Iowa Rutgers vs Maryland NW vs Illinois Indiana vs Purdue Minny vs Wisky

    my 2cents.

    Keep the current except flip Illinois west and add Rutgers and Maryland to the "other division".

    Many of the posters here don't want to play Alabama twice, but are willing to back a division where we play OSU every year, for the sake of geographic integrity ? .....I don't get it.

    WBill19542

  • Farms-
    MSU
    PSU
    Nebraska
    Iowa
    Indiana
    Wisconsin
    Maryland

    Factories-
    OSU
    Rutgers
    NW
    Mich
    Illinois
    Minnesota
    Purdue

    sf20011 ●

  • The Doctor said...

    Delaney will probably sell the naming rights to the highest bidders.

    The Cisco Division and All-State Division.

    It will gives us more money to buy a few more teams in the ACC.

    bulldogg

  • Dicks Fake Eye20793 said...

    The trouble I have with it is I don't even know what division MSU is in. Are we Leaders? Or Legends?

    I'll bet 80% of MSU fans don't know the name. We may know the teams, (Nebraska, UM, etc.) but not the name.

    It should be broken up geographically, and have an East/West Divisions. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid)

    I only kept track because the word in SCum's fight song is not the division they, or we, are in

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  • Trevor Barnes said...

    2013 Winners of the Cheddar Division:
    Ohio State

    2013 Winners of the Corn Division:
    Michigan State

    MSU would clearly be in the cheddar division.

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