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OT: Guitar Enthusiasts-- Strat or Les Paul?

  • Can anyone here really compare both of these two guitars seriously? They're totally different guitars... You tell me you don't like Strats because you like "heavy music"? Well what kind of wood is it? What pickups are you using? etc.

    The guitars are as different as they come, if its personal preference you're asking then I prefer the smooth feel of a Strat's neck and the light body.

    But you can't say one is better than the other...

    manofthewild07

  • Omar Comin' said...

    Fat, beautiful, heavy:

    Is that yours? Nice looking axe. Downright beautiful.

    I really need to buy one of these.

    Phil McCrackin

  • Phil McCrackin said...

    Is that yours? Nice looking axe. Downright beautiful.

    I really need to buy one of these.

    Indeed it is. Went with that one over a gold top.

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    Omar Comin19758

  • I would agree with this. A lot of personal preference. I have a highway one strat that has a humbucker. For me I love the neck and lightweight of the strat and the humbucker can really scream over the single coil. It works for me.

    Edit. Meant to quote manofthrwild

    This post was edited by updog on 5/28/2012 at 9:39 AM

    updog

  • Omar Comin' said...

    Indeed it is. Went with that one over a gold top.

    Is it a newer traditional model? Looks pretty similar to what I'm shopping for. Does it have the push/pull pickup switching?
    I love that flame finish, I would definitely choose that over a gold top.

    Very nice. I am jealous. I'm sure it sounds awesome.

    Phil McCrackin

  • it's not the guitar - its the player

    Spartytruth

  • I have a Black Beauty Les Paul. I love it, sounds great, fun to play yadda yadda yadda. But, lately I have been thinking I would rather have a strat. The LP is heavy and the edge is a little sharp. I don't like the way it pushes into my forearm when I am sitting down.

    Io Triumphe

  • The answer is: whatever feels the best. Depending on your rig, you can make anything pretty much sound like anything else. Clean channel is best with a tele, although check out a tele Thinline (Mexican built only). I like them for the classic tele sound (jangly) but with some perceived warmth. Gibson SG might be the most playable guitar ever built. If money is no object, quality of PRS is unsurpassed. If you simply want to tell people you own a strat or Les Paul, don't get a Les Paul from late 70s as the quality was so bad it almost bankruptd the company. Watch out also for strat single coils as the originals are very noisy. Ditto for Fender Jazzmaster guitars which you should check out. Bottom line, it's 99 percent feel and rig set up.

    Tupes

  • You may as well have called this thread, "which do you prefer: les paul or strat?" They can both be fantastic instruments and can play all kinds of music depending upon the hardware that's in them and what gear you have in your rig. But to ask which one is better is a little silly in my opinion. I love both, and personally my next guitar (I own gibson currently) will most likely be a g & l asat or their strat equivalent, I forget the name...

    Even guitars that are supposed to be the same can sound and and play a bit different. Just play them all see what feels the best...

    ErnestScribbler

  • 2 of my guitars.

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    Big Ten Referee

  • The correct answer is probably both. Always good to have more guitars.

    That said, I prefer the ES335 to either the Strat or the LP. I've never seen a blue one in person, but they look fantastic in pictures.

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  • Phil McCrackin said...

    Is it a newer traditional model? Looks pretty similar to what I'm shopping for. Does it have the push/pull pickup switching?
    I love that flame finish, I would definitely choose that over a gold top.

    Very nice. I am jealous. I'm sure it sounds awesome.

    It's a 2012 standard. All 4 pots are push-pull (neck coil tap, bridge coil tap, switch phase, and bridge control bypass).

    I'm not a huge fan of burstbucker pickups though -- it was the look and feel that drew me to that guitar, as well as the fact that I just wanted a really nice LP. So I switched all the electronics out of the new LP with the traditional wiring and Duncan pickups that were in my LP Studio.

    So now I've got a 2002 Studio with stock 2012 wiring (it's actually a plastic circuit board) and a 2012 Standard with custom pickups and traditional wiring.

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  • Its not a question of which is better, but which sound you prefer and maybe which you prefer to play. I understand its comparing an apple to an orange. But which do your prefer with standard equipment. I'm not talking a strat rigged with a humbucker pickup. Personally, I have always been partial to the tones coming from a Les Paul, maybe its the artists playing them. I don't play either, I'm an acoustic guy but I do appreciate electric guitars from a spectator's viewpoint. Apparently, according to several posters these two guitars are inferior to other models and makers and that is interesting. But bottom line I'm not asking which guitar is better. I do appreciate the complication in attempting to chose which is a better guitar.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Go_Green on 5/28/2012 at 1:32 PM

    Go_Green

  • Go_Green said...

    Its not a question of which is better, but which sound you prefer and maybe which you prefer to play. I understand its comparing an apple to an orange. But which do your prefer with standard equipment. I'm not talking a strat rigged with a humbucker pickup. Personally, I have always been partial to the tones coming from a Les Paul, maybe its the artists playing them. I don't play either, I'm an acoustic guy but I do appreciate electric guitars from a spectator's viewpoint. Apparently, according to several posters these two guitars are inferior to other models and makers and that is interesting. But bottom line I'm not asking which guitar is better. I do appreciate the complication in attempting to chose which is a better guitar.

    Maybe the better question for this thread is: which guitarist had the best sound? For me it's hands down Trey Anastasio. But he uses probably the most complicated rig ever put together to create that super warm tone on his Languedoc. For just straight BA sound, EVH on Van Halen I is hard to top. For newer guys out there, I'm a big fan of Jake Cinninger's versatility and he gets great stuff out of a simple stripped down sound from his G&L. Finally, Jerry Garcia was the master of getting all kinds of different sounds from a variety of well known and custom designed guitars. Not always a fan of his music, but huge respect for his ability and unique style.

    Tupes

  • Strat.

    Far, far superior. Les Paul is mostly name recognition.

    Formerly Blade Runner.

    tManWithNoName

  • tManWithNoName said...

    Strat.

    Far, far superior. Les Paul is mostly name recognition.

    Name recognition? Couldn't the same be said for Fender products? Let's be honest: A huge part of a person's opinion on a guitar depends on what he/she owns and the players they look up to. Maybe there are "superior" guitars out there when compared to Fender and Gibson's offerings. That doesn't change the fact that millions of people love Strats, Telecasters, and Les Pauls.

    It's kinda like cars. There are certainly "superior" modern cars available compared to classic Mustangs and Corvettes, but those cars will never cease to be popular/desirable.

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  • Don't get a strat unless you're over 50 and dress in supermarket denim. Clapton has sucked the cool out of that guitar from the 80's onwards.

    Cym Jim

  • tManWithNoName said...

    Strat.

    Far, far superior. Les Paul is mostly name recognition.

    In what sense is it far far superior?

    Macks

  • Macks said...

    In what sense is it far far superior?

    I would like to know this as well.

    BTW, Telecaster is far, far superior to the Stratocaster.

    Big Ten Referee

  • Tupes said...

    Maybe the better question for this thread is: which guitarist had the best sound? For me it's hands down Trey Anastasio. But he uses probably the most complicated rig ever put together to create that super warm tone on his Languedoc. For just straight BA sound, EVH on Van Halen I is hard to top. For newer guys out there, I'm a big fan of Jake Cinninger's versatility and he gets great stuff out of a simple stripped down sound from his G&L. Finally, Jerry Garcia was the master of getting all kinds of different sounds from a variety of well known and custom designed guitars. Not always a fan of his music, but huge respect for his ability and unique style.

    So much truth in this post.

    I'll be honest though, Cinninger's sound is a little too edgy for my taste some times. I love Umphrey's too.

    Trey 94-97 is pretty hard to touch both in terms of technical prowess and the sound he was putting out on a night to night basis.

    Don't get me wrong, he's still doing it big, but take a listen to fall 94. Some of those Rebas and Divided Skys are absolutely gorgeous.

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  • i mean, i don't really like the "no soul" argument that a lot of Phish fans use against Umphrey's, but some times Cinninger could benefit from some variety, change in dynamics, and subtlety.

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    Harry Hood

  • SilverSpartan said...

    Always been a Les Paul fan...a bit more sustain I think, and I like how the neck feels more. But when I look at strat guys - it's hard to argue. Guess it's all personal preference.

    "Ahhhhhh! You could go and have a bite and, ahhhhh, you still be hearing that one."

    http://www.silentlapse.com

    Thrillho

  • My grandpa (RIP, happy Memorial Day) gave me a '62 strat, and it's the best sounding instrument I've ever played. But more often than not, I'm playing an Epiphone Les Paul, which kicks the ass of my Mexi-strat. So, I guess I like both. All depends on the player.

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    Thrillho

  • Harry Hood said...

    i mean, i don't really like the "no soul" argument that a lot of Phish fans use against Umphrey's, but some times Cinninger could benefit from some variety, change in dynamics, and subtlety.

    I like Umphrey's for what they are; if I want soul, there's a long list of others I'll go to. Umphrey's delivers a broad range of stuff. Cinninger is pretty edgy; he was in a speed metal band prior to Umph. But he's also prone to throw in some gorgeous runs over a nice backbeat. His picking is one aspect of his playing that really stands out.

    Also agree with you on the Phish golden era of the mid-1990s. Today's Ocelot just doesn't deliver the beauty in terms of tone; but that's probably more rig-related. Also, Trey has toned down the "guitar god" aspect of his playing that made him so fricking untouchable in the 1990s. We all miss Old Trey to some extent.

    Tupes

  • Check out this 12 sting Les Paul. There are only a few of them out there. Warren, Slash, and I think some rich businessman had one custom made.

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    The Mule