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OT - Minot North Dakota - JOB OFFER REVOKED (UPDATED)

  • NigelUno said...

    A green and white one like that would be MINE.

    (fart sound)

    Rocinante

  • NigelUno said...

    does that come in blaze orange?

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • Rocinante said...

    It's a balmy 17 degrees in Minot this morning.

    I'm serious... that's warm for this time of year.

    No kidding. That's shirtsleeve weather. woot

    SpartanInNH

  • Welp. That sucks. Can we lock this thread so I dont have to come in here and have my freaking heart ripped out anymore.

    Job offer revoked. They wanted an answer by Thursday noon. Wednesday I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. Today they told me they cannot send me to the job because "it is too remote. You will miss everything in your families life between now and June. We have some other things coming up that we would like to conside you for and they would not be so harsh for your family."

    wtf. I thought my wife and I were the ones that decide what is right for my family. An extra day and a half to talk face to face with my kid. eff it. I wanted that fricken job so bad. Not once did I hesitate about family with them. I dont understand how that extra day and a half would mean that I couldnt handle the time away. damndamndamn

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • Maybe it was not meant to be... at least they left the door open for another possibility. You will know if this was a company worth working for if they don't contact you again. I could be wrong but they probably thought the distance being a factor might have affected your performance? Who knows... Good luck to you as I'm in the construction field myself and know how hard it is out there.

    Zonk

  • GatorBill said...

    Welp. That sucks. Can we lock this thread so I dont have to come in here and have my freaking heart ripped out anymore.

    Job offer revoked. They wanted an answer by Thursday noon. Wednesday I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. Today they told me they cannot send me to the job because "it is too remote. You will miss everything in your families life between now and June. We have some other things coming up that we would like to conside you for and they would not be so harsh for your family."

    wtf. I thought my wife and I were the ones that decide what is right for my family. An extra day and a half to talk face to face with my kid. eff it. I wanted that fricken job so bad. Not once did I hesitate about family with them. I dont understand how that extra day and a half would mean that I couldnt handle the time away. damndamndamn

    Sorry to hear that GatorBill.

    tVargMan Prime

  • Zonk said...

    Maybe it was not meant to be... at least they left the door open for another possibility. You will know if this was a company worth working for if they don't contact you again. I could be wrong but they probably thought the distance being a factor might have affected your performance? Who knows... Good luck to you as I'm in the construction field myself and know how hard it is out there.

    I'm guessing that they recognize the hardship this job can cause on some people and have experienced employees leaving the job leaving because it required time away from family.

    tVargMan Prime

  • GatorBill said...

    Welp. That sucks. Can we lock this thread so I dont have to come in here and have my freaking heart ripped out anymore.

    Job offer revoked. They wanted an answer by Thursday noon. Wednesday I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. Today they told me they cannot send me to the job because "it is too remote. You will miss everything in your families life between now and June. We have some other things coming up that we would like to conside you for and they would not be so harsh for your family."

    wtf. I thought my wife and I were the ones that decide what is right for my family. An extra day and a half to talk face to face with my kid. eff it. I wanted that fricken job so bad. Not once did I hesitate about family with them. I dont understand how that extra day and a half would mean that I couldnt handle the time away. damndamndamn

    That sucks Bill, but honestly it sounds like an excuse. Did you say, "ummm no. My wife and I have talked about this and I want the job." ? If they accidentally offered it to two people or they found someone they thought was better suited after offering you, that's just not cool, dude.

    (fart sound)

    Rocinante

  • GatorBill said...

    Welp. That sucks. Can we lock this thread so I dont have to come in here and have my freaking heart ripped out anymore.

    Job offer revoked. They wanted an answer by Thursday noon. Wednesday I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. Today they told me they cannot send me to the job because "it is too remote. You will miss everything in your families life between now and June. We have some other things coming up that we would like to conside you for and they would not be so harsh for your family."

    wtf. I thought my wife and I were the ones that decide what is right for my family. An extra day and a half to talk face to face with my kid. eff it. I wanted that fricken job so bad. Not once did I hesitate about family with them. I dont understand how that extra day and a half would mean that I couldnt handle the time away. damndamndamn

    FUCK ME. rant upset

    Sorry, GB.

    SpartanInNH

  • I am sorry to hear that, GB. I may have given you a hard time on this board once or twice but I really do admire your selflessness and devotion to your family. Good things happen to good people. You are due.

    Jor El

  • Very sorry to hear. Next round heed your own words...

    Decide what's right between yourself and your wife. That makes the decision.

    Telling all the children is very important- but not the decision-maker. You'll always decide in their favor. The rest is just breaking the news to them.

    Maybe the employer didn't get that since you didn't formally accept without having broken the news.

    Thoughts and well wishes...this too shall Pass

    Droppedbyadime

  • As the son of an employee of a large general company that motors along and never gives two shits about the impact they're having on your family... You should at least appreciate the consideration

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    Dr Leo Spaceman

  • Can you design fake legs?

    Johnny Alpamayo

  • Ps. I'd say it isn't too late to spin and ask for them to reconsider.

    I'd highlight that, yes, it's a remote location etc. And "family men" being loyal to a fault want everyone onboard etc.

    The acceptance was made but as my daughter is an adult now, it felt insincere to do so without her knowledge....

    I'm sure they wouldn't want someone accepting such a valuable position without the type of total resolve you now have and perhaps that was miscommunicated.

    Getting to know their values and culture throughout the interviewing process you concluded they'd expect nothing less than absolute dedication and your aim was to ensure it.

    Droppedbyadime

  • SpartanInNH said...

    FUCK ME. rantupset

    Sorry, GB.

    Thanks. *and thanks to everyone else also. Hard to keep faking the multiquote function here.

    The feeling of despair has not left yet. Not sure how long that will take. Probably until the next job offer. I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job. Shit. I wont put yall through all of this.

    Thanks for all of the advice in this thread, and always. You folks have been great to me and my family and it means so much to me. I know it sounds corny, and I will probably look like a bit of a turd for saying it, but when life really sucks and nothing else is working, you folks have a way of getting me through. Nothing replaces my family, but sometimes there is just a need for an extra boost, and I appreciate it.

    I had a chance to set up a meeting with a contractor in Knoxville after I got the phone call. So I sat with them for an hour this afternoon. It was a good conversation. They dont have anything right now, but I spoke with the Owner who is the president of the company, the Vice president of the Company (has been there 44 years, and with the owners kid who is actually the most intune and knowlegable owners kid that I have ever met.

    It was a very productive conversation, so I expect that something could come my way out of that eventually.

    It will be an absolutely shitty weekend. But thanks to all of you. I cant answer everyone, but please know that I appreciate each of you and your support.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • GAAH that sucks, man. I feel for ya. Maybe try calling them back and telling them "for really really real, I'm in if you'll have me"? I don't know. That blows, buddy.

    tBeeb

  • GatorBill said...

    I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job.

    Too bad, but I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job. and I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. don't go well together. Next time just take the damn job.

    trash

  • trash said...

    Too bad, but I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job. and I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. don't go well together. Next time just take the damn job.

    Harsh but true. You missed your first deadline

    SpartanGA

  • trash said...

    Too bad, but I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job. and I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. don't go well together. Next time just take the damn job.

    Gotta agree plus if you can't make a decision like this without personally talking to every member of your family how comfortable do you think your employer feels that you'll make sound decisions as a PM.

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    Snake Plissken

  • Snake Plissken said...

    Gotta agree plus if you can't make a decision like this without personally talking to every member of your family how comfortable do you think your employer feels that you'll make sound decisions as a PM.

    WTF are you talking about? How the hell does making a family decision about moving 23 hours away for a job and almost complete isolation from my family have anything to do with my ability to do a job? If I cant talk to my family about a decision like that, then I dont need to work for that company.

    Ive been a PM for 10 years, you make sound decisions based on doing what is right for the company. If I ask them for an extension with a good reason, and they say no, then I have to give them a yes or a no at the deadline. Simple as that. But when you ask for an extension and are told that they have already been thinking about this, and it is not right to send a family man that far away.. . blahblahblah.

    Im done on this. I feel crappy enough already.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • trash said...

    Too bad, but I needed this friggen job. My family needed this job. and I asked if they could wait til Friday so I could talk to my daughter in person about it. don't go well together. Next time just take the damn job.

    Ive already got the opinion of everyone in my family. If "the next time" ever happens again, then a sound decision can be made.

    Its a pretty life altering job decision. It is not like I was looking at a job that required a bunch of overtime, or required me to travel occasionally, or even a job that I would be away during the week and only home on the weekends.

    This one was quite a bit different, and the time frame didnt allow me to get the answers in the time they were comfortable, I guess.

    Sucks to be me. Moving onward.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • You can talk to your family about it; just don't let the employer know how difficult the decision is. Why disclose this? Discuss the offer, hang up the phone, discuss the decision with your family, then give them an answer by their deadline.

    Big Ten Referee

  • Big Ten Referee said...

    You can talk to your family about it; just don't let the employer know how difficult the decision is. Why disclose this? Discuss the offer, hang up the phone, discuss the decision with your family, then give them an answer by their deadline.

    I didnt disclose anything. They know that I have kids, they know that one is in college and the younengest is 4. They asked questions I answered them honestly. They mentioned something about being a close family and I told them that we ARE a close family, but the closeness has built strength, and we have went through much more than this together.

    I told them that if they wanted to talk to my wife I would bring her in. She is a strong individual, the family will be fine. I will be fine.

    If they dont want to send me because I am a family man, then I guess that is find.

    Ive got my oars back in the water, not going to let this keep me down. I was pretty down last night. Right now Im just pissed. Monday I have a phone interview with another company. Moving on.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • My guess: they found someone they can get cheaper with close to the same qualifications and maybe no family. Shake it off, something better will come along for you Bill.

    35,600 posts and counting since 09-09-2002. tRCMB Dead Pool Commissioner.

    pulling69

  • GatorBill said...

    I didnt disclose anything. They know that I have kids, they know that one is in college and the younengest is 4. They asked questions I answered them honestly. They mentioned something about being a close family and I told them that we ARE a close family, but the closeness has built strength, and we have went through much more than this together.

    I told them that if they wanted to talk to my wife I would bring her in. She is a strong individual, the family will be fine. I will be fine.

    If they dont want to send me because I am a family man, then I guess that is find.

    Ive got my oars back in the water, not going to let this keep me down. I was pretty down last night. Right now Im just pissed. Monday I have a phone interview with another company. Moving on.

    GB...

    Sorry to hear that these guys missed out on the opportunity to have you on their team. Their loss.
    But whats done is done. Time to sack up and move on. Im a bit younger than you - but sometimes we all need reminding that life deals us strikes and gutters. This is a gutter moment for you for sure. But think about the positives that you have going for. Focus on that, and focus on what you can do to improve your situation from here on out.

    I cant remember this exact quote verbatim

    But I remember once reading something along the lines of

    even the most beautiful music of the flute had to first endure the gnashing of the wood and the most violent of cutting and scraping for it to take its final shape.

    WE {Izzo} ARE {CoachD} ONE {spartan} My spartan is: #23 Draymond Green.

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