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OT Using a credit card to build credit history?

  • Personal finance gurus of tRCMB, what's the best way to use a credit card to build credit?

    I'm 23 and have very little credit history to speak of. I've never taken out loans nor had a credit card, so my credit history is limited to what one utility company reported (my credit score is decent... in the high 600s). So I just got a credit card to try to build up credit history...

    Is it better to have no balance every month, or should I keep a certain % balance? Does my level of activity matter?

    TIA

    arfabe16

  • arfabe16 said...

    Personal finance gurus of tRCMB, what's the best way to use a credit card to build credit?

    I'm 23 and have very little credit history to speak of. I've never taken out loans nor had a credit card, so my credit history is limited to what one utility company reported (my credit score is decent... in the high 600s). So I just got a credit card to try to build up credit history...

    Is it better to have no balance every month, or should I keep a certain % balance? Does my level of activity matter?

    TIA

    Use it for all purchases, PAY IT OFF every month.

    EdMartinsLoan

  • Use it as much as possible and PAY IT OFF every month. Also, good ways to build credit are getting off your parents car insurance if thats still the case.

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  • EdMartin'sLoan said...

    Use it for all purchases, PAY IT OFF every month.

    Reporting a bunch of zeros, assuming they even get reported, doesn't help much. Monthly activity is not reported. So the guy charging 10k per month and paying it off looks the same as the guy who never uses the card.

    You need to carry some balances and pay them off. Keep your outstanding balance below 40% of your credit line.

    This post was edited by Heat Miser on 4/8/2012 at 3:33 PM

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    Heat Miser

  • Heat Miser said...

    Reporting a bunch of zeros, assuming they even get reported, doesn't help much. Monthly activity is not reported. So the guy charging 10k per month and paying it off looks the same as the guy who never uses the card.

    You need to carry some balances and pay them off. Keep your outstanding balance below 40% of your credit line.

    100% false.

    MichState04

  • MichState04 said...

    100% false.

    Really? So you believe merchants send all activity to the bureaus? Got any proof?

    Guinness makes you drop mud.

    Heat Miser

  • You might want to get a Chase Freedom credit card. They were just running a deal where if you spend $500 in the next few months then they would give you a $350 bonus. Use it for all your purchases but pay it off every month. You'll get bonus points that way too to earn cash back or gift cards.

    Beachnutts1

  • MichState04 said...

    100% false.

    Can you please elaborate. I've heard that too and I don't think it's true either.

    Macks

  • Beachnutts1 said...

    You might want to get a Chase Freedom credit card. They were just running a deal where if you spend $500 in the next few months then they would give you a $350 bonus. Use it for all your purchases but pay it off every month. You'll get bonus points that way too to earn cash back or gift cards.

    Did you even read the OP?

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    Heat Miser

  • Heat Miser said...

    Did you even read the OP?

    Most of it.

    Beachnutts1

  • MichState04 said...

    100% false.

    Care to elaborate? I keep hearing conflicting things on this. Some people say to always have zeroes, while some people say to carry a low balance.

    arfabe16

  • Heat Miser said...

    Really? So you believe merchants send all activity to the bureaus? Got any proof?

    The way I understand it, most merchants report to the credit bureaus once per month. They'll report your current balance, as well as if you missed a payment. For anybody that uses their card regularly, it is unlikely that their balance is ever actually $0, unless they pay their bill the day after their statement date and then don't make any purchases for several days.

    For example, my billing cycle ends on the 20th, and my payment is due on the 17th of the following month. If the merchant reports my balance to the credit bureau at the end of the month they will report my statement balance plus the additional purchases from the 21st through the 30th/31st.

    The key is to not miss payments, and to keep the outstanding balance below 35-40% of your credit limit.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by msusnee on 4/8/2012 at 5:16 PM

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  • arfabe16 said...

    Personal finance gurus of tRCMB, what's the best way to use a credit card to build credit?

    I'm 23 and have very little credit history to speak of. I've never taken out loans nor had a credit card, so my credit history is limited to what one utility company reported (my credit score is decent... in the high 600s). So I just got a credit card to try to build up credit history...

    Is it better to have no balance every month, or should I keep a certain % balance? Does my level of activity matter?

    TIA

    Use it but use it sparingly and payoff the balance every month. always keep your balance below 10% of your available credit line. If it does not have an annual fee, keep it open forever, even if you switch to other cards and stop using this one. Over time, it will help your credit score

    spartykid

  • arfabe16 said...

    Care to elaborate? I keep hearing conflicting things on this. Some people say to always have zeroes, while some people say to carry a low balance.

    I'll try & explain. Credit cards have very high interest rates. People don't want to pay unnecessary interest unless they don't have a choice. So by carrying a balance on your credit card you're implying that you don't have a choice in carrying that balance. It signifies that you are spending more money than you should & are using your credit card as a short term loan.

    Now there are a variety of things that can contribute to needing to carry a balance. Medical bills, unforeseen problems, etc. But, if you don't have to pay 17% interest every month, then why would you?

    To the OP, do you really believe that paying a 17% + interest rate every month when you dont have to will benefit you?

    The Only Colors

  • arfabe16 said...

    Care to elaborate? I keep hearing conflicting things on this. Some people say to always have zeroes, while some people say to carry a low balance.

    You are never at a 0 balance. You receive a bill and you pay it off when it's due in 15 or 30 days and by the time you pay off your due amount you already have a balance for the next billing cycle. When your bank reports there will be a balance even though you pay off every month and pay no interest.

    MichState04

  • MichState04 said...

    100% false.

    Actually, he's kind of right. It's counterintuitive, but you gotta look at it from a creditor's point of view. They want people they can make money off of, i.e., a person who carries a balance. And guess who's responsible for creating the credit scoring system? That's right, banks.

    My wife works in a loan department for a major bank. Paying off a credit card every month makes you feel good and is sound financially, but it doesn't tell a bank jack squat about your ability to make regular payments with a balance outstanding. Therefore, it doesn't help your credit score much at all.

    It is always funny to read the advice in threads like these where people come out and say "don't take on debt", "Just pay it off every month", or "I don't have any debt." That's all great and makes you sleep at night, but when you do need a loan, you're getting denied for your habits. Case in point, the OP who has a credit score in the 600s. That's low and will cause a lot of creditors in this economy (and post regulation changes) to deny you. Especially if you don't have a credit history.

    To the OP, no student loans? No insurance? No car payment, etc.?

    This post was edited by JMSparty08 on 4/8/2012 at 5:39 PM

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  • Heat Miser said...

    Reporting a bunch of zeros, assuming they even get reported, doesn't help much. Monthly activity is not reported. So the guy charging 10k per month and paying it off looks the same as the guy who never uses the card.

    You need to carry some balances and pay them off. Keep your outstanding balance below 40% of your credit line.

    That's the dumbest idea I ever heard. So you're telling him to spend extra (in interest) to boost his credit??no

    ish_man

  • JMSparty08 said...

    Actually, he's 100% right. It's counterintuitive, but you gotta look at it from a creditor's point of view. They want people they can make money off of, i.e., a person who carries a balance. And guess who's responsible for creating the credit scoring system? That's right, banks.

    My wife works in a loan department for a major bank. Paying off a credit card every month makes you feel good and is sound financially, but it doesn't tell a bank jack squat about your ability to make regular payments with a balance outstanding. Therefore, it doesn't help your credit score much at all.

    It is always funny to read the advice in threads like these where people come out and say "don't take on debt", "Just pay it off every month", or "I don't have any debt." That's all great and makes you sleep at night, but when you do need a loan, you're getting denied for your habits. Case in point, the OP who has a credit score in the 600s. That's low and will cause a lot of creditors in this economy (and post regulation changes) to deny you. Especially if you don't have a credit history.

    To the OP, no student loans? No insurance? No car payment, etc.?

    No student loans. I do pay my own car insurance. No car payment (I bought it outright).

    And I'm still confused since everyone disagrees on the proper course of action. I'm lucky to have never needed to owe money, but that also means that I have no effin clue how to build up my credit score for when I do need a loan/whatever later in life.

    This post was edited by arfabe16 on 4/8/2012 at 5:42 PM

    arfabe16

  • ish_man said...

    That's the dumbest idea I ever heard. So you're telling him to spend extra (in interest) to boost his credit??no

    Bingo. Sounds like advice from a BOA exec.

    MichState04

  • JMSparty08 said...

    Actually, he's kind of right. It's counterintuitive, but you gotta look at it from a creditor's point of view. They want people they can make money off of, i.e., a person who carries a balance. And guess who's responsible for creating the credit scoring system? That's right, banks.

    My wife works in a loan department for a major bank. Paying off a credit card every month makes you feel good and is sound financially, but it doesn't tell a bank jack squat about your ability to make regular payments with a balance outstanding. Therefore, it doesn't help your credit score much at all.

    It is always funny to read the advice in threads like these where people come out and say "don't take on debt", "Just pay it off every month", or "I don't have any debt." That's all great and makes you sleep at night, but when you do need a loan, you're getting denied for your habits. Case in point, the OP who has a credit score in the 600s. That's low and will cause a lot of creditors in this economy (and post regulation changes) to deny you. Especially if you don't have a credit history.

    To the OP, no student loans? No insurance? No car payment, etc.?

    Well that's funny because I managed to carry a 750 credit score on credit cards alone before I got my mortgage without ever paying a penny in interest because I paid my balance every month. The truth is no one knows the exact algorithm that goes into the mysterious credit score but purposely paying debt is probably the single dumbest thing I have ever heard and pretty much signifies how much the banks own the American public.

    MichState04

  • arfabe16 said...

    No student loans. I do pay my own car insurance. No car payment (I bought it outright).

    And I'm still confused since everyone disagrees on the proper course of action. I'm lucky to have never needed to owe money, but that also means that I have no effin clue how to build up my credit score for when I do need a loan/whatever later in life.

    You're 23, how about you ask your parents... No matter what people say on here, you will still value their opinions more. Did you ask them yet?

    The Only Colors

  • arfabe16 said...

    No student loans. I do pay my own car insurance. No car payment (I bought it outright).

    And I'm still confused since everyone disagrees on the proper course of action. I'm lucky to have never needed to owe money, but that also means that I have no effin clue how to build up my credit score for when I do need a loan/whatever later in life.

    Very good. You're off to a great start. Save as much as you can. Don't listen to these idiots that think you need to pay interest on a credit card. The only loan you need is for your home. Even then, try to pay a big enough deposit to avoid PMI and being able to pay your own taxes .
    Live within your means and you'll be very happy in 30-40 years.

    EdMartinsLoan

  • The Only Colors said...

    You're 23, how about you ask your parents... No matter what people say on here, you will still value their opinions more. Did you ask them yet?

    I'm not originally from the US, so my parents would have no idea how credit scores work.

    arfabe16

  • msusnee said...

    The way I understand it, most merchants report to the credit bureaus once per month. They'll report your current balance, as well as if you missed a payment. For anybody that uses their card regularly, it is unlikely that their balance is ever actually $0, unless they pay their bill the day after their statement date and then don't make any purchases for several days.

    For example, my billing cycle ends on the 20th, and my payment is due on the 17th of the following month. If the merchant reports my balance to the credit bureau at the end of the month they will report my statement balance plus the additional purchases from the 21st through the 30th/31st.

    The key is to not miss payments, and to keep the outstanding balance below 35-40% of your credit limit.

    lol You and others are correct. I don't know what the Hell I was thinking.

    My official excuse will be that I was distracted by the Tigers.

    Guinness makes you drop mud.

    Heat Miser

  • I don't know how it works, but I've had a single credit card for about 6 years and just used it normally, never carrying a balance. I just got an auto loan and had a great credit rating.

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