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OT - When do kids stop being so damned expensive?

  • morgarc said...

    I have 3 as well, ages 3 to 7. My answer is going to be somewhere between 25 and never.

    Luckily my wife is the director of a daycare so I never had to experience childcare expenses but my thinking is as they get older you replace those expenses with expensive items such as electronics and clothes. That moves to paying more for sports, gymnastics and dance for the girls(if you have them). That goes through highschool which gets even more expensive because kids want what is trendy and what their friends have, plus pay for play sports and you'll be saving for college. Then the college years will be bad, especially if they go to grad school. My guess is that sometime after college it will get cheaper. But, if you are like me and have 2 daughters there is still 2 weddings to pay for so that is going to be a lot of money. Guess I can just hope for scholarships and lesbians {old shrug}

    c'mon lesbians (fingers crossed)

    Jools Holland

  • Dendrobates said...

    This is one of the many reasons why I don't want to have kids.

    They also have small hands and smell of cabbage

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    morgarc

  • morgarc said...

    They also have small hands and smell of cabbage

    Your kids are carnies?

    This post was edited by Cool Runnings on 3/21/2012 at 10:37 AM

    Cool Runnings

  • Cool Runnings said...

    My boys will be like the Zellers of long-snapping

    My dad always says, "Pstein if I could do it all again, you'd be out long snapping by the time you could walk."

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  • morgarc said...

    They also have small hands and smell of cabbage

    And huge heads that often necessitate an episiotomy.

    Jools Holland

  • We had some long and hard discussions about the wife staying home, but in the end decided we would still be ahead, though not much, with her working and paying out for daycare. She is a teacher, so at least she will get some time off and we get a break on daycare somewhat, but of course she doesn't make a fortune in the first place, and I'm not much better. We've been very fortunate to have a neighbor provide in-home daycare, and my mother in law takes them a day or two a week while they are little. But next year, it looks like a traditional daycare environment.

    We've pretty much learned to live without that money, and have accepted that we will never have that money, that even when they start school, that money will simply cover other expenses, or at the very least go into the college fund.

    So far clothing and such has been relatively minor. She shops for bargains and hits garage sales. But I realize that will not last forever with two daughters.

    My worst fear: They will want a horse. Somehow we keep falling into daycare scenarios where the people have a horse or horses. We are not horse people, and I don't have that type of coin. We are car people.

    But on the other hand, you just can't put a price this time of year on your almost-3-year-old little girl saying "I want to watch basketball with you, dad." or "Which team do we want to win this game?" or "Which guys are Sparty's friends?" or simply responding with a cheerful "Go White!" to your "Go Green!"

    MacSparty

  • You have got to be kidding , "cheaper???" By the time the college loans are paid you have grand kids-that's when the serious lavishing starts.

    72 Spartan

  • Sparty316 said...

    actually, that's incredibly cheap for 3 kids. that's less than $100 per kid per week. what kind of rickety-ass daycare are you sending them too? I spend almost that much on one kid.

    oldest is in Kindergarter, other 2 only go to daycare 2 days a week.

    BH Spartan

  • Giant Moose said...

    The correct answer is "when you die"

    Actually when you die they get everything that's left....but your post made me snort the water I was drinking out of my nose so I up voted you on principal.

    doc_spartan

  • Jools Holland said...

    Are all three kids from the same woman?

    Yes. But she's Chinese, not Vietnamese, does that mean I need to post pics?

    BH Spartan

  • BH Spartan said...

    Yes. But she's Chinese, not Vietnamese, does that mean I need to post pics?

    If they're asian, couldn't you have them make a little $ on the side by having them do some textile work?

    Jools Holland

  • Jools Holland said...

    If they're asian, couldn't you have them make a little $ on the side by having them do some textile work?

    Not a bad idea. But she's unusual for an Asian. Big hands and sucks at math.

    BH Spartan

  • MacSparty said...

    We had some long and hard discussions about the wife staying home, but in the end decided we would still be ahead, though not much, with her working and paying out for daycare.

    This is the hardest decision to make. Where you will be ahead "But not by much". It's gut wrenching for every family to figure this part out. Should you take the little bit of money and have other people raise your kid, or take the hit, but have your wife or husband playing and reading to your kid every day?

    I don't have the answer here, and the only people that can really answer that are the mother and father because every family is different. I know that decision isn't a unique one, and the agnst it put you through is not uncommon for many families to go through the same stuff. We decided to go the opposite way when the second one was born, even though my wife was making a good living. She stayed home. Doesn't mean your kids are going to be any better off or any worse, but it's a decision you make and then you live with it. I sometimes wonder if my kids would be "better off" academically if we kept them in day care or if they'd be assholes if we did. Either way, it is what it is, and you'll get through any decision you make.

    This post was edited by DWags on 3/21/2012 at 1:00 PM

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  • doc_spartan said...

    Actually when you die they get everything that's left....but your post made me snort the water I was drinking out of my nose so I up voted you on principal.

    not if you have a sexy mistress

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  • This is why we're centering our future plans around living in the same city as either my parents (Lansing) or hers (Detroit). Save spectacular amounts of money with childcare from grandparents, make parents happy with a grandchild around to keep them entertained and engaged. Everybody wins.

    chris14

  • Steely Dan said...

    You already quit the job you were talking about for so long on here?

    Yeah it wasn't going well with all the missed time with the kids getting sick, I was there for 7 months. And like I said when you are paying 2k a month and still missing work seemingly once a week, even though the wife and took turns when one of the kids got sick, it was not working. And that doesn't even count when I got the flu this year. The job sucked anyway. Like I said I am looking for evening/nights now. And being a Health and Safety guy I can pull that off in an Auto type plant.

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  • chris14 said...

    This is why we're centering our future plans around living in the same city as either my parents (Lansing) or hers (Detroit). Save spectacular amounts of money with childcare from grandparents, make parents happy with a grandchild around to keep them entertained and engaged. Everybody wins.

    I can walk to my dads house in 5 minutes, some Grandparents will do it some won't.

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    DMBSparty

  • D.Wags said...

    This is the hardest decision to make. Where you will be ahead "But not by much". It's gut wrenching for every family to figure this part out. Should you take the little bit of money and have other people raise your kid, or take the hit, but have your wife or husband playing and reading to your kid every day?

    I don't have the answer here, and the only people that can really answer that are the mother and father because every family is different. I know that decision isn't a unique one, and the agnst it put you through is not uncommon for many families to go through the same stuff. We decided to go the opposite way when the second one was born, even though my wife was making a good living. She stayed home. Doesn't mean your kids are going to be any better off or any worse, but it's a decision you make and then you live with it. I sometimes wonder if my kids would be "better off" academically if we kept them in day care or if they'd be assholes if we did. Either way, it is what it is, and you'll get through any decision you make.

    Thats pretty much the decision we made. It was just to tough with kids getting sick and having both of us having to take time off of work. Not to mention if one is up during the night. Both our jobs where suffering so I fell on the sword. We still send my 3 year old to young preschool half days for the academic and social aspect. But since I have been home my kids have not been sick. When they were in day care for 10hrs a day they were sick weekly. It is going to suck for awhile, officiating helped now I have to figure out an evening job to help get by.

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    DMBSparty

  • Cool Runnings said...

    Your kids are carnies?

    How else are they going to chip in on the mortgage? Plus, they have a ton of available babysitters.

    www.housekeepingassociates.com

    morgarc

  • doc_spartan said...

    Actually when you die they get everything that's left....but your post made me snort the water I was drinking out of my nose so I up voted you on principal.

    Until you can take it with you, death is the only way I know to put a definitive end to your cash outlays

    This post was edited by IB Fine on 3/21/2012 at 2:04 PM

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  • Bob Sakimano said...

    glad we don't have to worry about before/after school care, etc. anymore - but now it's private violin lessons, soccer league dues, swim team dues, bi-monthly trips to Urban Outfitters -

    Dont' forget about those tatoo's you'll have to ante up for. especially the cool ones on the calf.

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    DWags

  • DMBSparty said...

    But since I have been home my kids have not been sick.

    yep, those ear infections just disappeared. Like magic.

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    DWags

  • Yikes, this thread scares me because it makes me look at my reality.

    Four kids--5, 3.5, 2 and 5 weeks.

    Nanny + nursery school (son b) + nursery school (son c) + kindergarten (son a) = approx. $83k in 2012. That doesn't include the extracurriculars like baseball, music class, soccer or misc. summer camps.

    We really need to get somewhere where the living is a little cheaper.

    Manhattan Green

  • Bob Sakimano said...

    but now it's...bi-monthly trips to Urban Outfitters - lol no

    And where do your kids buy their clothes?

    Johnny Alpamayo

  • BH Spartan said...

    So I have 3 kids - ages 1 to 5. Figuring out my childcare expenses and I'm looking at paying about $15k this year in daycare, preschool, latchkey, etc. So my question to the elders of tRCMB is do these rug rats ever get cheaper? I'm hoping when they are in school fulltime that I will be able to spend less $$$ on them, but really have no idea.

    My infant went to the NICU for 5 days right from birth. $4000 out of my pocket later and I'm still trying to pay the bills. I got the jump start right from the get go.

    Stils